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Open letter from Henry Ford about the use of HCQ
https://www.henryford.com/news/2020/08/hydroxychloroquine-an-open-letter ^ | 08.13.2020 | crz

Posted on 08/13/2020 9:04:36 AM PDT by crz

The findings from Henry Ford medical centers on the use of HCQ in the treatment against Covid.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: covid; hcq; hcqtreatment; henryford; hydroxychloroquine; michigan; politicalmedicine
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To: Tunehead54; crz
Yale professor: Feds making 'unconscionable mistake' blocking hydroxychloroquine for COVID patients

Of course I am no expert but this guy is.

21 posted on 08/13/2020 10:16:07 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: pepsi_junkie

Biden is getting his first science briefing this morning. What are the odds: he will come out of it announcing he has determined HCQ is a valid scientific treatment, and, the dems/media will conveniently forget that President Trump pointed to HCQ very early in the game?


22 posted on 08/13/2020 10:16:55 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: Robert DeLong

See my #21 for reference re Zinc. ;-)


23 posted on 08/13/2020 10:20:23 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: crz
Sometimes it takes a clever wordsmith to effectively present fact and truth, concisely, in anticipation of adversarial (lying) dissenters. The concluding statement does that.

Hurrah!

24 posted on 08/13/2020 10:23:53 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: crz

If you get sick. You take HCQ, Zinc and it goes away, I call that a CURE.


25 posted on 08/13/2020 10:25:59 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Tunehead54

Yep zinc plays a role in the effectiveness of HCQ, as it provides a gateway for the HCQ to enter the cell so that the HCQ can block the virus replication process. Not a doctor but I believe that is how it works. My memory sometimes fails me on what I’ve read about the treatment and how it works. 8>)


26 posted on 08/13/2020 10:36:07 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: crz

I wonder how many people have and will needlessly die because this treatment is not being made available in the USA?


27 posted on 08/13/2020 10:36:19 AM PDT by TBall
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To: imardmd1

You can read the original study here and the senior author’s letter to the editor here.

Go back to the article and click on the “Here” for the authors letter to the editor.


28 posted on 08/13/2020 10:36:46 AM PDT by crz
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To: TBall

https://www.henryford.com/news/2020/07/hydro-treatment-study


29 posted on 08/13/2020 10:40:42 AM PDT by crz
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To: Tunehead54

https://www.henryford.com/news/2020/07/hydro-treatment-study


30 posted on 08/13/2020 10:41:39 AM PDT by crz
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To: Tunehead54

https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa601/5840526


31 posted on 08/13/2020 10:45:48 AM PDT by crz
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To: Robert DeLong
Probably only because they had not enough occaions of its inclusion in the case histories. Not their fault, and nost certainly not of being unaware. I certainly would want zinc and vitamin D(3) included in the treatment.

Actually, I have been taking them even now. One does not even need a scrip for that, they are OTC-available, and that cheaply. In Decemner I had a lingering upper respiratory infection, and (knowing nothing then of the virus pan-mania) I persuaded my physician to prescribe the azithromycin Z-pak course, which completely rid me of that infection in hours. Been well ever since.

In July, I had to have a molar extracted at the local hospital, for which they required a test for the virus. Result: no antibodies or indication of symptoms, though I have been out and about all during the masking era. And I am 83, daily doing carpentry and handyman work, climbing to the roof on ladders, painting, etc.

So, there; that's one anecdote supporting my opinion that should I get the virus, I would want the HCQ/Z-pak immediately. I don't know if my PhD in chemistry would help, but I would think so.

Woe to the attending physician that does not comply. There are malpractice lawyers to attend to that type of deficiency in treatment, even if by my progeny. Murder by virus is a charge that will be coming up soon, eh?

Hear this, you golden-agers like me!

32 posted on 08/13/2020 10:48:45 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1
The first COVID-19 case confirmed at HFHS by RT-PCR was on March 10, 2020, any patients admitted before March 10th and subsequently tested positive were also included in the analyses. There was a total of 2,948 COVID-19 admissions, of these, 267 (9%) patients had not been discharged, 15 (0.5%) left against medical advice, and four (0.1%) were transferred to another healthcare facility; these patients were excluded from analysis as we could not ascertain their outcome. In addition, there were 121 (4.1%) readmissions, which were also excluded.

Overall, 2,541 consecutive patients were included in the analyses with a median age of 64 years (IQR: 53–76 years), 51% male, 56% African American, median inpatient LOS was 6 days (IQR: 4–10 days). The median time to follow-up was 28.5 days (IQR 3–53). The majority of patients (52%, n = 1,250) had BMI ≥ 30. Additional underlying comorbidities are detailed in Table 1. On the day of admission, two variables predicting severity of disease and mortality, highest mSOFA score and lowest O2 saturation, were recorded. However, 25% of the population did not have mSOFA scores available, as recording of this metric became institutional standard one month after the index admission. Other indicators of severity were ICU admission and mechanical ventilation status. All baseline characteristics were further stratified by the four treatment groups (hydroxychloroquine alone, hydroxychloroquine + azithromycin, azithromycin alone, and neither treatment). Median time (IQR) from admission to receipt of hydroxychloroquine was 1 day (1–2). Overall crude mortality rates were 18.1% in the entire cohort, 13.5% in the hydroxychloroquine alone group, 20.1% among those receiving hydroxychloroquine + azithromycin, 22.4% among the azithromycin alone group, and 26.4% for neither drug (p < 0.001). Adjunct therapy with corticosteroids (methylprednisolone and/or prednisone) and anti-IL-6 tocilizumab was provided in 68% and 4.5% of patients, respectively.

The above was linked to from the original article posted:

Treatment with hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, and combination in patients hospitalized with COVID-19

33 posted on 08/13/2020 10:56:37 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Tunehead54
Not to worry. This crap ends 11/03/20 🇺🇸👍
34 posted on 08/13/2020 11:16:32 AM PDT by Walrus (I do not consent)
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To: crz

What do these people know? Are they doctors? They need to follow the science.


35 posted on 08/13/2020 11:51:51 AM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: crz

My relative was on day 10 of having all the COVID-19 symptoms and 6 days after a positive COVID test when she started on the hydroxychoroquine protocol plus a steroid nebulizer. Within a week she felt back to normal and exactly one month after it started she tested negative for COVID-19. So sometimes it works even if the illness is advanced. Her only after affects are that so far she has not regained her sense of smell or taste.

Her doctor had to go through a lot of red tape to find a pharmacy that would supply it and he even risked that he might be censured by the state medical board for doing it. We need more courageous doctors like him.


36 posted on 08/13/2020 11:53:29 AM PDT by chronicles
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To: Robert DeLong
Think we should toss in some crispy-fried thick-slice bacon with it? Kind of like the "Mary Poppins" theme:

"A spoonful of (whatever) makes the HCQ go down . . ."

?

37 posted on 08/13/2020 1:37:42 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1

Might give it a nice flavor, however, the zinc plays an important role for the HCQ to be effective, as it enables a gateway for the HCQ to enter the cells to stop the virus from being able to replicate. The virus needs the DNA from the cell to replicate. Since the virus only contains RNA it needs the human DNA to replicate itself. It is able to get the DNA when it enters the cell, HCQ kills it when it enters the cell thus disabling the ability to replicate. At least that is my understanding. 8>)


38 posted on 08/13/2020 1:46:35 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong
Thanks for your explanation. Makes sense to me. Without the zinc, no wonder the unimaginative medics can't tell if HCQ works or not. Bacon is rich in zinc: Per 100 g (mg), 9.5; Per Serving (mg) 2.3; Serving Size 3 slices (24 g).

I thimk I might like a double serving!

39 posted on 08/13/2020 4:31:46 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: crz; little jeremiah; bitt; Mrs. Don-o; All
😡 Just saw this....

Well the FDA just denied the Henry Ford Ins Request for HCQ.

NOW WHAT?— PlantHunter (@PlantHunter001) August 13, 2020


40 posted on 08/13/2020 5:56:02 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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