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Flynn case hearing live feed
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Posted on 08/11/2020 6:54:08 AM PDT by janetjanet998

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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

Personally I think this is headed to the USSC. This isn’t going to go in Flynn’s favor based on what little I can understand based on the courts line of questioning.


81 posted on 08/11/2020 8:31:35 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: ScaniaBoy

Those were the judges words “non-factual evidence.” I’ve no clue what that means! Sounded like legal mumbo-jumbo to me.


82 posted on 08/11/2020 8:34:37 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

judge asks what is your best summary argument?


83 posted on 08/11/2020 8:35:49 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (#openupstateny)
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To: 1Old Pro

yeah, and he’s “willing to be persuaded” (his words) my ass. That was a “beg me to rule in your favor” .....


84 posted on 08/11/2020 8:37:42 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

sounds like the district court is political and wants to make a political determination. Garland is bitter.


85 posted on 08/11/2020 8:38:32 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (#openupstateny)
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To: circlecity
"What’s that got to do with the law regarding speedy trial?"
First, where and when did you get your JD and what state(s) are you licensed to practice?

Me - California, 1982, all appellate jurisdictions including SCOTUS.

Your information will help me to determine the level of my response to your question.

86 posted on 08/11/2020 8:39:31 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: 1Old Pro

How does an appropriations clause question relate to this case?


87 posted on 08/11/2020 8:39:56 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

Then he says “I’m trying to decide that in another case today” .... WTF


88 posted on 08/11/2020 8:41:10 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative
How does an appropriations clause question relate to this case?

It doesn't, he wants to be argumentative

89 posted on 08/11/2020 8:42:10 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (#openupstateny)
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To: usconservative
Then he says “I’m trying to decide that in another case today” .... WTF

He should give his seat to this attorney if he is that incapable.

90 posted on 08/11/2020 8:43:21 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (#openupstateny)
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To: 1Old Pro

Apparently Judge Garland is that inept because that’s what he said. Word for word.


91 posted on 08/11/2020 8:44:16 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Regulator

It makes you wonder just why it is so damn important. He must be a threat level of epic proportions to somebody. This is all beyond bizarre at this point.


92 posted on 08/11/2020 8:44:28 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: 1Old Pro
I had to stop listening at this point. Could the bias here be any more transparent?
93 posted on 08/11/2020 8:44:42 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: circlecity
Lol! Your s/n is perfect!! 🙃
94 posted on 08/11/2020 8:45:54 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: usconservative

this is like the lame Obama/Clinton judge in first appeals court hearing who through all kinds of racially charged “hypotheticals” into the mix ... totally absurd, shows they’re trying to argue other things because the (lack of) merits of this case are so clear & obvious.


95 posted on 08/11/2020 8:46:41 AM PDT by Steven W.
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To: CollegeRepublican

Garland operates in King Sullivan’s world
where when the prosecutor says:
“nolle prosequi”,
dirty, really naked Emmet Sullivan (”S” stands for sedition)
screams “off with the DA’s head”.


96 posted on 08/11/2020 8:47:08 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("when a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced")
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To: Diogenesis

WTF?

Leslie McAdoo Gordon
@McAdooGordon
Garland worried about a “flood” of cases for mandamus to this Court. He has a hypo: Congress claims Executive branch is spending money in violation of the appropriations clause. Why can that case be handled on appeal and this one is a mandamus?


97 posted on 08/11/2020 8:48:40 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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This is where we miss CJ Rhenquest. He saw the obvious political bias in the Florida Supreme Court ruling in Bush v Gore and quickly jumped in and said “Nah baby nah”.
He’d see thru this railroad and stop it.


98 posted on 08/11/2020 8:49:58 AM PDT by drdirt333 (DRDIRT333)
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To: Tunehead54

Indiana University School of Law. 1984 Licensed in all state and Federal courts. When did you lay try a criminal jury trial in Federal court. Or last guilty plea hearing there and what did the judge advise the client about which constitutional rights he was waiving by pleading guilty?


99 posted on 08/11/2020 8:52:48 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment
"Even as this whole thing unravels, the one element that really screwed Flynn is the guilty plea. And I know there were supposedly good reasons to do it, and there was bad legal advice at the beginning. But the bottom line, is when he agreed to cooperate with the Mueller team, he put himself in a really bad trick bag. He might still get out of it, but it will have to go all the way to the Supreme Court. This District Court is not interested in the law, it is only interested in the politics."

There's so much wrong with the prosecution prior to Barr's team involvement, the only FAIR thing to do would be to accept the dismissal and move on.

On the subject of Flynn's original representation, there is certainly the possibility that they were tainted, and steering Flynn's case down the path of a guilty-plea to serve the interests of people other than Flynn (read: anti-Trumpers). It's also possible that they did the best they could for Flynn with the evidence that was made available to them by (rogue) DOJ prosecutors and FBI (Obama holdovers).

Being charitable to the district judge and court (maybe undeservedly so), they're likely pissed that they were lied to by the DOJ in the initial prosecution, and are pissed that there is other information still being withheld from them as to the full scope of the reasons for dropping the prosecution now. It could be info being withheld to protect the future prosecutions that are still coming (don't want to tip their hand), or it could be they're only interest is covering up the previous malfeasance (protecting the swamp).

OR - it could be that the district court is corrupt in total (due to the number of flaming-liberal dems appointed by flaming liberal Presidents of the past, including Clinton & Obama. If that's the case, they're trying mightily for a way to insert themselves into the prosecutorial decision, DESPITE them having no constitutional role in that process. In other words, they're being told to stay in their lane, and they don't like it one bit.

100 posted on 08/11/2020 8:57:22 AM PDT by Be Free (When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.)
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