Taking care of business... TRUMP STYLE.
MAGA https://t.co/q6Rje43mUZ— SpyGate Down (@SpyGateDown) August 8, 2020
Posted on 08/08/2020 2:41:07 PM PDT by Hojczyk
President Trump says he will sign an Executive Order to ease the suffering of those harmed by the pandemic-related shutdowns and to stimulate the economy. Congress has failed to agree on a new package to accomplish these things.
Trump’s Executive Order would include these four components: (1) a payroll tax holiday until the end of the year, (2) an extension of enhanced unemployment benefits until the end of the year, (3) an extension of the eviction moratorium for federal subsidized housing, and (4) a suspension of student loan payments until further notice.
Questions surround the legality of accomplishing at least some of these things via executive order. Trump’s response to that might be, “so sue me.”
There are also questions about the fiscal impact of some of the measures, at least for those who still care about the national debt. In addition, there are questions about the efficacy of a payroll tax cut and the wisdom of extended generous unemployment benefits.
However, as a political matter, Trump’s move looks like a masterstroke. Since the days of FDR, the public has always seemed to approve of presidents who act to ameliorate suffering while Congress diddles. A flurry of activity, even of the futile or potentially counterproductive kind, makes a president look energetic and caring.
In this instance, Trump’s move might well force congressional Democrats to reach a deal. That outcome, too, would be a political win for the president.
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Clearly, you don’t manage payrolls. This will be a nightmare for he companies that are still paying employees.
I’m aware of the way Democratic Governors are jerking us around. I live in a state being ruled by one. So, beat the up over it. Don’t triple down on their illegality.
I agree .. but this doesn’t help.
There will be a backlash.
I don’t like EOs, either, for all the reasons you stated. It’s not clear, however, that all the provisions will be knocked out by an objective judge. The problem is that the dems will file several identical lawsuits in districts with a majority of liberal judges. When they get a judge they like, they’ll dismiss the other cases. The resistance judge will issue a nation wide injunction against implementation.
But that too will be an election issue. There is a political cost to filing this suit.
What this will (should) do is force a compromise with Congress. It is thus not a bad move.
“What he’s doing is completely illegal and will be knocked down in the courts”
I believe someone will sue, but I’m not so sure it will be the Democrats.
I’m not so sure these EO’s are illegal. Trump said he using unspent funds that have already been appropriated for pandemic relief. Not a whole lot different from his transferring funds to build the wall, is it? That battle was won in court. I don’t see how this is much different.
You found it
Payroll managers get paid to manage payrolls. I’m sure they’ll survive.
You’re catching on... no one is going to know what to do. It’s a freaking clusterfruck.
I quickly read the EO. It has some small print that may yield some interesting political outcomes.
The first is he leaves the choice of participating with each governor. Will the governor’s of Democrat states work with Trump if they seem to be working against Pelosi?
The second is the 400 benefit. I read it that 100 has to come from state. Where does state get funds?
Interesting tidbits that will play out. Stock up on popcorn.
I will go on a limb here, and say that Trump and his people have researched the applicable laws, and that he has authority to take these actions.
Clearly it would be a lot cleaner legally if Congress had passed legislation, but,a president has executive authority in various ways.
I have not researched all of the ins and outs of executive authority, or existing laws under which he may be issuing these executive orders. I agree it’s not good if there no foundation in the law for him to issue these orders.
I’m assuming (yes I know what it means to assume) that there is a foundation in the law for these executive orders. If not, then that is problematical, I agree.
This only applies to social security tax.
Some may hold up, but the payroll tax change surely will not. That’s the piece that’s really bothers me. I’ve been praying he wouldn’t do this.
I LOVE the idea of it. This is NOT the way to do it.
Taking care of business... TRUMP STYLE.
MAGA https://t.co/q6Rje43mUZ— SpyGate Down (@SpyGateDown) August 8, 2020
I do payroll for a number of companies. We are already managing deferrals of social security tax on employer portion. This just adds the employee portion. Software handles it perfectly.
This IS a stroke of genius, by POTUS.
And, no, it WON’T be a nightmare. Everything is so automated, these days. Even for the SMALLEST of employers.
Bravo, POTUS.
Are you new? The last President unilaterally”legalized” 11 million people and the Supreme court upheld it.
Yea. I guess I need to go read it too. If it’s set up as a voluntary thing for Governors to do ? That could get interesting. I could see Rep governors doing it and Dems not. That might hold up in court.
Details matter. I’ll go take some time to read it.
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So, You think we all must wait for the real leader Nancy Pelousi to offer us scraps while she pays off all the non producers?
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