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Vietnam Suspends 27 Pakistani Pilots Working in its Airlines
DefenseWorld ^ | June 29, 2020 | "our bureau"

Posted on 07/19/2020 9:42:00 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

Vietnam has suspended 27 Pakistani pilots working at local airlines after 262 of 860 civilian commercial pilots in Pakistan were found to have fake licenses.

"All of the pilots are of Pakistani nationality and licensed in the country. These pilots are working at several airlines in Viet Nam," Dinh Viet Thang, Civil Aviation Administration of Viet Nam (CAAV), was quoted as saying by Vietnam News Agency.

Minister of Transport of Vietnam Nguyen Van The has asked the CAAV to review the licenses and certificates of foreign pilots who are working at local airlines. The minister ordered ban of fight missions of pilots suspected of counterfeiting documents in Pakistan.

There are reportedly about a thousand of foreign pilots working for domestic airlines including Vietnam Airlines, Vasco, Vietjet Air, Jetstar and Bamboo Airways.

Pakistan's shocking fake license scandal came to light when aviation authorities were investigating the fatal PIA PK-8303 airplane crash. The airliner crashed into a congested residential area 5km short of Karachi international airport on May 22, killing 97 people on board.

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TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Japan
KEYWORDS: airbus; airbusa320; australia; bambooairways; china; japan; jetstar; karachi; modelcolony; newzealand; pakistan; pk8303; vasco; vietjetair; vietnam; vietnamairlines
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Pakistani preliminary investigations have attributed the cause behind PIA Airbus A320 crash on May 22 to blunders committed by both pilot and air traffic controller (ATC).

The PK-8303 airplane operated by Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) crashed in Model Colony, a congested residential area around 5km from Karachi Airport last month, killing 97 people onboard.

On Monday, a provisional inquiry report stated that the pilot of the ill-fated flight was "overconfident" as he failed to follow Standard Operating Procedures for landing. The ATC also erred by giving the go-ahead to the pilot for making a second attempt for landing after the first failed, Pakistan local media reported.

Two failed attempts to land could have led the aircraft to lose both engines, reports said.

The team investigating the crash prepared the report on the basis of conversation between the ATC and the pilot, cockpit voice recorder data and evidence collected from the site where the plane had crashed.
Pilot, ATC Responsible for PIA Airbus Crash: Pak Inquiry | June 23, 2020

1 posted on 07/19/2020 9:42:00 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Pilots of China Airlines (CAL) Airbus A330-300 managed to land the airplane safely in Taipei even after three of its computer systems lost power simultaneously and failed.

On June 14, the airplane was landing during rainy weather at the end of a flight from Shanghai's Pudong when the thrust reverser, automatic braking, and speed-brake panel systems all failed to work.

The pilots switched to manual braking to land the plane at which ultimately came to a halt just 9 meters from the end of the runway at Songshan Airport, reports said. The total runway length was 2600 meters.

None of the passengers were injured in the unfortunate incident.

Taiwan's Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) is allegedly asking Airbus A330 pilots to consider the possibility of manual landing in the event of bad weather. If the airport does not allow sufficient distance for manual landing, the pilot should consider finding an alternative airport.

On May 22, a Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) Airbus A320 airliner, PIA PK-8303, crashed into a congested residential area 5km short of Karachi international airport, killing 97 people on board.
Three Computers of China Airlines Airbus A330 Fail, Pilots Land plane Manually | July 6, 2020

2 posted on 07/19/2020 9:44:36 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv
found to have fake licenses.

Picky, picky, picky.

3 posted on 07/19/2020 9:47:12 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Vietnam H1Bs.


4 posted on 07/19/2020 9:48:17 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Why does NIKE support child slavery?)
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To: SunkenCiv

Do they know how to land a plane?


5 posted on 07/19/2020 9:57:16 AM PDT by Leep (We can go to the grocery store but we can't go to work?)
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To: Leep

At least one of them didn’t.


6 posted on 07/19/2020 10:02:21 AM PDT by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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To: SunkenCiv
In recent years I've flown Emirates Airlines almost a dozen times.Cheap fares,new planes...and they go to places I want to go.

Of those flights all the pilots were either Brits or Aussies...except for one who sounded Arab.I was a bit nervous on that particular flight...but,as they say,any flight you can walk away from is a good one.And I was able to walk away from it. :-)

7 posted on 07/19/2020 10:04:16 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Just Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election!)
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To: SunkenCiv

It’s hardly *shocking*.

It’s what muslims do.

I’m sure they were in place for when the orders came through for a mass jihadi attack.


8 posted on 07/19/2020 10:05:52 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: SunkenCiv

Fail flight school. Buy the license from...somebody. Go straight into “OJT” with a commercial carrier. “Fake it till you make it.” *shudder*


9 posted on 07/19/2020 10:06:56 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Drunken pilot, maybe?

“The engines had scraped the runway three times on the pilot’s first attempt to land, causing friction and sparks.[4]:12 The contact with the runway may have caused substantial damage to the engines’ critical components located on the underside, consequently leading to failure.[67]”

“The aircraft was at an altitude of 9,800 at navigation-waypoint MAKLI, whereas it was expected to be at 3,000 ft. The pilots disengaged the autopilot, and switched to “OPEN DESCENT” mode, in an effort to capture the ILS glide path, the aircraft momentarily achieved descent rates of over -7000fpm. The landing gear was extended at a height of 7,200 ft while the aircraft was 10 nautical miles away, but the landing gear was inexplicably retracted by the time it came to 5 nautical miles from the runway. It eventually attempted to land without the landing gear extended.[71]

“Before the first landing attempt (according to the CVR and FDR), multiple alerts including the overspeed and gear unsafe warning, as well as ground proximity warning system (GPWS) all sounded, however they were either missed or disregarded by the flight crew. The reason the flight crew ignored these warnings has yet to be determined. One of the airport’s CCTV cameras recorded the aircraft’s first landing attempt and screenshots from the recording were used in the preliminary report. The recording shows the aircraft touching down on the runway on its engines with sparks resulting from friction with the asphalt at high speed.[4]:12

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_International_Airlines_Flight_8303


10 posted on 07/19/2020 10:23:31 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Kamikaze pilots for allah.


11 posted on 07/19/2020 10:28:08 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Jobs are getting scarce for pilots given the downturn in travel related to Covid-19. Suddenly there is no shortage of pilots in the military as pilots delay leaving until the job market improves.


12 posted on 07/19/2020 10:28:43 AM PDT by allendale
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To: SunkenCiv

What? You mean they dont give out real pilot licenses to undocumented pilots in pakistan?

Come on, Pakistan. Join the 21st century already!

California will show us the way.


13 posted on 07/19/2020 10:31:36 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: SunkenCiv

Reduces the likelihood of SJS.


14 posted on 07/19/2020 10:39:25 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: SunkenCiv; All

Pakistan International Airlines flight PK8303 Karachi disaster animation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oQpf3RKG8Q


15 posted on 07/19/2020 10:43:29 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: SunkenCiv

... after 262 of 860 civilian commercial pilots in Pakistan were found to have fake licenses.
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Incredible! How does one fake knowing how to fly?


16 posted on 07/19/2020 10:43:43 AM PDT by KittyKares (Drain the Swamp)
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To: Leep
Apparently they know that one quick way, but the Vietnamese want to avoid that.

17 posted on 07/19/2020 10:51:29 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
:^)

18 posted on 07/19/2020 10:55:09 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Hi.

I’m guessing “fake licenses” means didn’t pay enough graft.

Or...

“Luv you long time GI.”. “Fi dollah.”

5.56mm


19 posted on 07/19/2020 10:55:59 AM PDT by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! Finish THE WALL!)
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To: BradyLS; KittyKares; BenLurkin
They learn a bit, flunk, but pay someone off. As you said, fake it 'til you make it. Just like A.A.

20 posted on 07/19/2020 10:56:13 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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