Posted on 07/13/2020 11:45:32 AM PDT by rxsid
BATISTE: Marxist Take Em Down NOLA Ignores Fact That Blacks Owned Slaves, Too
The Take Em Down NOLA movement ignores unpopular historical facts while leading its removalist campaign. The group crusades against slave owners and people connected to the short-lived Confederate States of America, but it has long avoided the reality that Black people owned Black slaves and Blacks were part of the Confederacy. As complex as that past may be to some, New Orleans, Louisiana, has an even more convoluted history. And some of the Black heroes, honored with memorials, meet Take Em Downs qualifications for removal.
Louisiana led all states in Black slave ownership, and it was not even close. The 1830 United States census showed that 965 Louisiana Blacks owned 4,206 slaves. According to that census, Louisiana had 25% of the total number of free Black slave owners in America and 33% of the total number of slaves owned by free Blacks in America. The next highest in each category were Virginia with 948 Blacks owning 2,235 slaves and South Carolina with 464 Blacks owning 2,715 slaves. The New Orleans population was 46,082 in 1830, and locally 753 Blacks owned 2,349 slaves in the Crescent City.
Thirty years later, the number of Black slave owners had quadrupled. According to federal census reports, on June 1, 1860, New Orleans had 10,689 non-slave Black residents, or free people of color as was a phrase of the era. Of those over 3,000 free Negroes owned slaves, or 28 percent of the free Negroes in that city, according to Duke University professor John Hope Franklin, Americas leading African American historian.
Take Em Down NOLA has never addressed Black ownership of other Blacks. Nor have its members discussed the impact of segregation on the mixed-race Creoles of Louisiana. Yet those issues play a part in the histories of some well-known Black New Orleanians from the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
Author Tom Sancton wrote about the Creole Black populations opposition to segregation in his 2006 memoir, Song For My Fathers. The book contains insightful quotes regarding the now monumental civil rights Plessy vs. Ferguson U.S. Supreme Court case of 1896, but also contains the little discussed motivation of Black Creole Homer Plessy.
In the nonfiction book, Antoine Plessy, Homer Plessys cousin, discussed Homers father and grandfather. Their original name was du Plessis. A major revelation was The grandfather, in fact, had been a wealthy free man of color who owned slaves, threw his lot in with the Confederacy, and was wiped out by the collapse of Confederate money.
Sancton quoted Antoine Plessy stating, Homer felt superior to the American-speaking colored because they had been slaves and were from a lower social level than him. See all the Creole families thought they were better than the ex-slaves. And to keep from going with these peopleyou know, there was prejudicethey established their own social clubs and dance halls all through the city. Sometimes you would go in those places when they were holdin a soiree and you wouldnt see a dark face. Well, they done that purposefully.
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Except that it happens to be historical FACT. I'm from south Louisiana and very familiar with the history of the state. It is all true. EVERY race has owned slaves. Only ONE race turned against slavery and worked to eradicate it. Guess which one.....................
The point I think is to contest the presumption that only white people can be racists. Slavery IS as is racism, stupid and petty.
Well, we could, but that would be stupid. The real point, the one you don’t seem to get, is that slavery was not about hate. White people in Europe didn’t go to Africa to enslave blacks because they hated them. Black Africans did not sell other blacks Africans because they were racist. Black Americans did not own slaves because they were racist. The point is, the morons today try to put slavery into today’s context, wrongly believing that it was about hate, and by extension, the Confederate monuments are tributes to hate. It wasn’t and they aren’t. It is obscenely stupid to believe such a thing. Pointing out that blacks owned blacks proves it. THAT’S why it is important.
Slavery is about owning people. Stop trying to make it sound like, they did it too.
The pro slavery wing of FR is simply disgusting g.
And you long for those days, dont you. Owning people sure beats having to make it on your own.
The firs t government nickel Ive ever gotten was the latest round of hand outs. I retired the first time at 43. I retired again at 58. I started with nothing.
I dont owe anyone. No one owns me.
It was hard work. But its possible.
Read the chapters that catch your interest to red pill re: Civil War. http://southernhistorians.org/freebooklet/
Ignoring history and blaming current people for past actions is Marxist thuggery.
I’ll say it again: Mohamed Ali is quoted as saying that the best thing that ever happened to him was when his granddaddy got on that slave ship in Africa.
Yes, that's exactly right. Yet more that isn't commonly known on this issue.
And where are all the descendants of those 1830-1860 NOLA folks today, and who “owes reparations” to whom?? /sarc
Now stop pining over the thought of owning negroes and pull yourself into the 21st century."
Now you better wait a damn minute there you son of a bit#$!
Just who the FU*( do you think you are accusing me of being a slave owner, or even DESCENDENT from a slave owner?!?
Just because I think the ENTIRE slavery issue must be discussed, you accuse ME of being involved?
F YOU.
What a vile thing to allege. Your a dirt bag, to put it mildly.
I think you are misunderstanding the point. If just as many or more blacks OWNED slaves as whites, then why the reparations? Some of the blacks who descended from blacks who owned slaves would get reparations along with the real descendants of white slave owners, and whitey would pay the bill.
So, the point is that finding the TRUE slaves of white or black slave owners would be difficult. And, as the article also states, why no outrage over blacks owning slaves (black and/or white?) It’s basically the same as the black on black shootings and the abortion clinics being placed in higher numbers of black neighborhoods than in others.
Another personal observation is that blacks from the Caribbean knew that blacks owned slaves, and are surprised blacks in this country are not aware of this.
On the “Trail of Tears”, “The Five Civilized Tribes” took 1600 black slaves with them to the Oklahoma Indian Territory Reservations.
LOL. My dad was from upstate NY, and was stationed in Fort Polk during WWII. His ancestors fought in the Union Army, so my "connection" is hardly "pro-slavery".
AFAIK, my mothers family have always been small-scale farmers, and owned no slaves.
You're just another "antifa-thinking fanatic"....anyone who disagrees with you in any degree is to be insulted and shouted down.
Nope. I didn’t learn about the Barbary Pirate slave trade until I read about it in my 30s. Never learned a thing in school about how colored muslims enslaved Italians and other Mediterranean peoples.
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