Marxist Take ‘Em Down NOLA Ignores Fact That Blacks Owned Slaves, Too

https://thehayride.com ^ | 07.13.2020 | Johann Batiste

[Wonder Warthog]

"This article, and comments supporting it, sound like the arguments of children."

Except that it happens to be historical FACT. I'm from south Louisiana and very familiar with the history of the state. It is all true. EVERY race has owned slaves. Only ONE race turned against slavery and worked to eradicate it. Guess which one.....................

[Sam Gamgee]

The point I think is to contest the presumption that only white people can be racists. Slavery IS as is racism, stupid and petty.

[Lee'sGhost]

Well, we could, but that would be stupid. The real point, the one you don’t seem to get, is that slavery was not about hate. White people in Europe didn’t go to Africa to enslave blacks because they hated them. Black Africans did not sell other blacks Africans because they were racist. Black Americans did not own slaves because they were racist. The point is, the morons today try to put slavery into today’s context, wrongly believing that it was about hate, and by extension, the Confederate monuments are tributes to hate. It wasn’t and they aren’t. It is obscenely stupid to believe such a thing. Pointing out that blacks owned blacks proves it. THAT’S why it is important.

[Vermont Lt]

Slavery is about owning people. Stop trying to make it sound like, “they did it too.”

The pro slavery wing of FR is simply disgusting g.

[Vermont Lt]

And you long for those days, don’t you. Owning people sure beats having to make it on your own.

[Vermont Lt]

The firs t government nickel I’ve ever gotten was the latest round of hand outs. I retired the first time at 43. I retired again at 58. I started with nothing.

I don’t owe anyone. No one owns me.

It was hard work. But it’s possible.

[The Truth Will Make You Free]

Read the chapters that catch your interest to “red pill” re: Civil War. http://southernhistorians.org/freebooklet/

[marktwain]

Pointing out historical fact is not "pro-slavery".

Ignoring history and blaming current people for past actions is Marxist thuggery.

[Svartalfiar]

It’s estimated that upwards of 27% of New Orleans’ 5,000+ Free Negroes owned one or more slaves.

Just gotta go three or four paragraphs down...

According to federal census reports, on June 1, 1860, New Orleans had 10,689 non-slave Black residents, or free people of color as was a phrase of the era. Of those “over 3,000 free Negroes owned slaves, or 28 percent of the free Negroes in that city,” according to Duke University professor John Hope Franklin, America’s leading African American historian.

[myerson]

I’ll say it again: Mohamed Ali is quoted as saying that the best thing that ever happened to him was when his granddaddy got on that slave ship in Africa.

[vetvetdoug]

Pro slavery? My ancestors fought for the Confederacy because the Yankees were confiscating their property and destroying their homes and livestock. None of the Confederates in my heritage owned slaves. The slaveowning GGGF joined the Union Army in Tennessee because his family had fought for Independence and were believers in the Union. History is not clear nor precise and the war for many wasn't over slavery.

[rxsid]

"And guess who sold blacks from Africa? Other Africans. It is simply how things worked in tribalist societies. Win the war, take the remaining men and women as slaves, sell some of them to Europeans."

Yes, that's exactly right. Yet more that isn't commonly known on this issue.

[Wuli]

And where are all the descendants of those 1830-1860 NOLA folks today, and who “owes reparations” to whom?? /sarc

[rxsid]

"You lost. Slavery is bad. Blacks are people with equal rights and protections under the law. Everyone gets the same rights, no one gets special rights.

Now stop pining over the thought of owning negroes and pull yourself into the 21st century."

Now you better wait a damn minute there you son of a bit#$!

Just who the FU*( do you think you are accusing me of being a slave owner, or even DESCENDENT from a slave owner?!?

Just because I think the ENTIRE slavery issue must be discussed, you accuse ME of being involved?

F YOU.

What a vile thing to allege. Your a dirt bag, to put it mildly.

[Shery]

I think you are misunderstanding the point. If just as many or more blacks OWNED slaves as whites, then why the reparations? Some of the blacks who descended from blacks who owned slaves would get reparations along with the real descendants of white slave owners, and whitey would pay the bill.

So, the point is that finding the TRUE slaves of white or black slave owners would be difficult. And, as the article also states, why no outrage over blacks owning slaves (black and/or white?) It’s basically the same as the black on black shootings and the abortion clinics being placed in higher numbers of black neighborhoods than in others.

[PallMal]

Believe it or not, this fact of blacks owning slaves was actually taught in schools a few decades ago, even in passing.

Another personal observation is that blacks from the Caribbean knew that blacks owned slaves, and are surprised blacks in this country are not aware of this.

[higgmeister]

On the “Trail of Tears”, “The Five Civilized Tribes” took 1600 black slaves with them to the Oklahoma Indian Territory Reservations.

[higgmeister]

When I was stationed in California, I knew a man named Morgan who was from the family of legally free black men in Louisiana.   His family and never been slaves and still lived on their original land.   He was a really fine and gracious gentleman and cooked a mean Gumbo.

[Wonder Warthog]

"And you long for those days, don’t you. Owning people sure beats having to make it on your own."

LOL. My dad was from upstate NY, and was stationed in Fort Polk during WWII. His ancestors fought in the Union Army, so my "connection" is hardly "pro-slavery".

AFAIK, my mothers family have always been small-scale farmers, and owned no slaves.

You're just another "antifa-thinking fanatic"....anyone who disagrees with you in any degree is to be insulted and shouted down.

[Sam Gamgee]

Nope. I didn’t learn about the Barbary Pirate slave trade until I read about it in my 30s. Never learned a thing in school about how colored muslims enslaved Italians and other Mediterranean peoples.