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Vladimir Putin is hours away from seizing power until 2036 as he casts his ballot on final day of 'rigged' vote on the future of constitution
UK Daily Mail ^ | July 1, 2020 | Tim Stickings

Posted on 07/01/2020 4:44:02 AM PDT by C19fan

Vladimir Putin is heading for victory in a referendum that could extend his rule until 2036 as Russia enters its final day of voting today. The Kremlin strongman would normally reach his term limit in 2024, but voters are set to back a plan to reset his tally to zero and allow him to run for two more terms. The package of constitutional changes would also increase Putin's powers to dissolve parliament and expand his influence over courts and prosecutors.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: alexeinavalny; dictatorforlife; juliuscaesar; kgb; putin; putinsbuttboys; russia; termlinits; vladtheimploder
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To: C19fan

DjT shouldn’t count on blind support from Vlad, but cooperation rather than alienation will be very helpful against the true menace just south and east of Russia.

I’ve always liked the Russian peoples, while wary of some the communist czars, but don’t we read of some religious freedoms growing there ?


21 posted on 07/01/2020 5:07:45 AM PDT by chiller (Davey Crockett said: "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead'. I'm going ahead.)
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To: C19fan

You can’t admire modern Russian politics given the constant manipulations going on behind the scenes, as well as more overt acts like bumping off journalists who get too close to the truth, but it’s in a better place than most times in its history. Putin is no close friend of liberty, but he’s not sadistic or motivated by an insane, anti-human ideology.


22 posted on 07/01/2020 5:15:24 AM PDT by Stravinsky (Politeness will not defeat the Marxist revolutionaries)
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To: apillar
Just something about the Russian psyche, they seem to love authoritarian rule...their one brief experiment with true democracy (the Boris Yeltsin years) was an utter economic disaster and considered the worst period in modern history.

"Our land is great and rich, but there‘s no order in it. Come rule and reign over us."

--The Russian Primary Chronicle (Early 12th Century)

23 posted on 07/01/2020 5:16:24 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: C19fan
There is a lot to admire about Russia, politics is not one of them.

I spent six weeks in St. Petersburg on a work assignment in 2010. There were a couple things that surprised me about the Russians I spoke with about politics.

First was they did not seem hesitant in the least to talk about politics or even criticize their government, even more so than Americans in some regards as most of us are a bit hesitant to talk politics in a business setting. This surprised me because I figured there would sort of a holdover from the Soviet Years where people would be looking over their shoulder and afraid to say much. But that did not seem to be true at all, if anything its just the opposite.

Second, they genuinely like Putin. Even the ones that criticized things he, or the Russian government, had done, had nothing but praise for Putin as a person. I heard the same things over and over, "Putin is strong." "Nobody pushes him around" "He gets things done." "He's made other nations respect Russia again."

24 posted on 07/01/2020 5:18:22 AM PDT by apillar
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To: C19fan

The Democrats are just jealous they haven’t gotten away with it yet.


25 posted on 07/01/2020 5:18:23 AM PDT by sevinufnine
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To: apillar

Would you recommend visiting Russia on a trip? I always wanted to go there.


26 posted on 07/01/2020 5:19:39 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: apillar

Lost in the background clutter is the fact......... Vladimir Putin saved Mother Russia from dying

His primary task was to save Mother Russia


27 posted on 07/01/2020 5:20:31 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: apillar

Sort of the same things we say about Trump


28 posted on 07/01/2020 5:23:48 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: apillar

Censorship in modern Russia is very selective. The average man is more or less free to criticize the government. The media is another story. Some criticism is allowed in some areas, but in the important areas, it’s Kremlin propaganda.

And yes, Russians mostly do like Putin. He’s seen as having saved Russia.


29 posted on 07/01/2020 5:29:00 AM PDT by Stravinsky (Politeness will not defeat the Marxist revolutionaries)
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To: bert

“Russia is a backward nation”

No they are not. They have the largest landmass of any country on earth and are one of the most advanced military powers on the planet. Did I mention, next to the U.S., they have one of the largest nuclear arsenals in the world? Why heck, we even paid them to put OUR people into space because we couldn’t. None of that seems backward to me.

If the Russian people want someone like Putin, who has helped bring them back from their troubles, then that is their choice. We should have learned our lesson about meddling in other countries by now. I’m not sure we have the perfect record (Bush & Obamanation).

I’m not sure I call that backward.


30 posted on 07/01/2020 5:30:21 AM PDT by icclearly
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To: EEGator

“Russia should have elections like us with the true power not being elected. We like front men.”

Russia is going back to communism. American and Western Europe is now prime for the overthrow.


31 posted on 07/01/2020 5:31:47 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Cloward-Piven is finally upon us.)
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To: EEGator
I wouldn’t say we’re heading in a healthy direction.

Nor I.

32 posted on 07/01/2020 5:34:40 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Russia is going back to communism.

Looks like we'll get there first.

33 posted on 07/01/2020 5:35:06 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

If anything, Russia is going back to Tsarism, not Communism.


34 posted on 07/01/2020 5:36:09 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: C19fan

I could not care less about how other people are governed.

The war is here.


35 posted on 07/01/2020 5:36:12 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Think like youÂ’re right, listen like youÂ’re wrong)
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To: C19fan

If it wasn’t for Donald Trump I’d be saying we live in a glass house. The Uni-party is strong.


36 posted on 07/01/2020 5:41:35 AM PDT by McGruff (A Lie Can Travel Halfway Around the World While the Truth Is Putting On Its Shoes)
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To: C19fan
Putin has nothing to fear from America. After all, we fly the sodomite flag proudly from our Moscow embassy. "This is all thanks to the Obozo holdovers that haven't been flushed down the toilet.

Now if the Stars and Bars were flying in place of that multi-colored rag then Putin might have to worry!

37 posted on 07/01/2020 5:45:49 AM PDT by yardboyd (Call me a rose.... or leave me alone.)
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To: icclearly

The fact they have a large landmass and nuclear weapons has no relevancy. The country lacks very basic infra structure like roads and they can’t make pantyhose.

Economically they rank like Mexico. Their population number is also like Mexico. Unlike China or Mexico, Russia has no exports other than weapons and oil that are worth a damn and can be sold in international trade.

As recently as ten years ago, Moldavian Christians imorted North Carolina panty hose to be sold in Russia at a tremendous profit


38 posted on 07/01/2020 5:51:24 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: bert
Lost in the background clutter is the fact......... Vladimir Putin saved Mother Russia from dying

The only thing Putin saved Russia from is being a democracy.

As for the economy in Russia, barrel of oil went from $20 in Jan 1999 to $110 in May 2014.

39 posted on 07/01/2020 5:52:49 AM PDT by tlozo
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To: tlozo

Your simplistic reasoning is ignorance


40 posted on 07/01/2020 5:59:51 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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