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The entire problem with this kind of statistic is it has zero context to when civilians and police are in some encounter, which is vastly most often related to crime.

While Mr Roper reports on the "per capita" comparison of the black population's encounter with police, and indicating that is greatly disproportionate to their population, he leaves out (a) what brings police and civilians into such confrontations - crime, and the fact that the rates of criminal activity is also disproportionate to - greater than - their percent of the population.

Blacks are over represented in encounters with police because blacks are over represented in criminal activity.

1 posted on 06/10/2020 9:50:58 AM PDT by Wuli
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Uh it’s true because blacks commit many times more crimes. Just a fact.

But Hey why would anybody think a lot of blacks in cities commit crimes it’s not like they just all ran out and looted stores on TV or something.


2 posted on 06/10/2020 9:52:45 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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Maybe because they commit 53% of the crimes but are a much smaller part of the population?

Torture the data and it will confess to anything!


3 posted on 06/10/2020 9:53:52 AM PDT by silverleaf (Great Things Never Come from Comfort Zones)
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Should watch Pre-PC Chris Rock’s video and see how to avoid it.


4 posted on 06/10/2020 9:53:53 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Don’t be involved in crime.

Black persons who aren’t habitual criminals, who are the majority of black persons, are no more likely to get shot than anyone else.


5 posted on 06/10/2020 9:54:19 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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Interesting stat: so, blacks are 2.5 times more likely to choose trial by combat with the police. What could go wrong?


6 posted on 06/10/2020 9:54:25 AM PDT by cdcdawg ("Americanism, not Globalism, will be our credo." DJT 2016)
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Okay. Now, what are the ratios of whites and blacks killed while in the commission of a crime? Show your math.

Leave your paper on my desk. I'll grade it over the weekend.

7 posted on 06/10/2020 9:54:35 AM PDT by Texas Eagle
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Blacks are over represented in encounters with police because blacks are over represented in criminal activity.

Exactly.

This is not a statistic created by police racism.

When victimization surveys are done, independent of police, the same proportions of black victims and black victimizers show up.

As for crime rates, some of the most law abiding are people with carry permits.

They are about 3-5 times as law abiding as police are.

8 posted on 06/10/2020 9:55:02 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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If a significant part of an ethic group is involved in crime the statistic is rather elementary!


9 posted on 06/10/2020 9:55:26 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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Only .003% of interactions with a cop result in use of deadly force- that’s against all races- considering that there are over 700,000 full time police, and 300,000,000 police encounters every year- last year there were an estimated 10,000,000 arrests and Only .003% of interactions with a cop result in use of deadly force- and only 2 unarmed black people were killed unjustifiably last year- the fact is that the police are remarkable non racist- non violent

in a study of three states, NC Louisiana, Arizona, 114,000 arrest- physical force was needed or used in less than 1% of those cases (Less than 1114 people)- in 98% of those cases where physicals force was used, only 2% showed any discernible injuries- only 22 people had any discernible injuries out of 114,000 arrests- This is an amazingly ow number considering how fiercely drunks and drug addled people and drug dealers etc fight the police in many cases-

Another stat- blacks, despite being just 13% of the population, commit over 50% of violent murders in the US- the left scream about black folks being shot at a higher rate than whites, but the fact is- they commit most of the violent crimes despite being only a fraction of the population, so of course their numbers will be higher per % of shootings- this is lost on everyone claiming that there is ‘systemic racism’ in the police force- Put it this way- in an area where the majority of people are black, say 80%, there are obviously going to be more black people arrested than whites- but the left scream racism because more black folks are arrested in that area than whites- black men have a homicide commission rate 8 times that of white folks- resulting in more arrests, and more gun confrontations with police than whites by comparison- and police are forced to answer calls to black violence far more than white violence- this isn’t because of racism, this is because of the fact that blacks are 8 times more violent than white folks- and despite being 13% of the population, commit more than 50% of the crimes- Stats are misused by the left to make it appear as though white officers single out black people for arrest because so many are arrested compared to white folks when % of population is considered-

if interested in the stats- Glen Beck’s site has the video pointing all these out- https://www.theblaze.com/glenn-radio/statistics-on-police-brutality-and-racism


10 posted on 06/10/2020 9:56:05 AM PDT by Bob434
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Are they committing violent crime in the process? Are they resisting arrest in the process?

They want even number no matter what the circumstances. The only real solution is to kill more white people.


12 posted on 06/10/2020 9:56:52 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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Black Americans 2.5X More Likely Than Whites to Be Doing Stupid Stuff


13 posted on 06/10/2020 9:57:23 AM PDT by KevinB (Quite literally, whatever the Left touches it ruins.)
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when your 10 times more likely to commit a crime, that’s bound to happen.


15 posted on 06/10/2020 9:57:41 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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Blacks are over represented in encounters with police because blacks are over represented in criminal activity.

Blacks commit 36% of the violent crime in the US even though they are only 13% of the population.

This means they are far more likely to have a police encounter than are white people, and much more likely to react violently in that encounter than are white people. It is actually amazing that the statistic is as low as it is in comparison, which shows the police are deferring to Blacks and being more careful in such police stops, most likely because the risk of violence is highter.

16 posted on 06/10/2020 9:58:39 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplophobe bigot)
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Blacks are 27% of those killed by cops. 43% of cops killed intentionally are done in by black perpetrators.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/07/police-killings-racial-bias-not-proven/


19 posted on 06/10/2020 10:00:29 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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“There are lies....damn lies...and statistics”

Mark Twain


20 posted on 06/10/2020 10:01:10 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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Time to drill down the information.

Why are 92% of Black Homicides are committed by other Blacks?

How many Cops who have killed a Black Suspect were Black?

Why are three times as many “so called” unarmed White Suspects killed by Cops than Blacks.

How many of those White Suspects were killed by Black Cops?

Questions, questions, questions. Fun with Statistics...


21 posted on 06/10/2020 10:02:58 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Kill a Commie for your Mommy.)
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Who kills more black people across America? Blacks or whites?


22 posted on 06/10/2020 10:04:45 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement (We are NOT all in this together.)
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It’s not just higher crime, but black culture also contributes to black people being more hostile to the police when stopped. Whenever I am stopped by police, it’s yes sir and no sir, and very slow and deliberate movement, and friendly attitude. I give the policeman absolutely no reason to get his guard up and I certainly give him no lip.


24 posted on 06/10/2020 10:06:00 AM PDT by jimmygrace
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Black Americans are also 20 times more likely to be killed by other blacks as well. So, following the logic of this article, they should avoid Black Cops at all costs.


25 posted on 06/10/2020 10:07:39 AM PDT by richardtavor
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Exactly. What proportion of violent crime is committed by inner city black people? And of course, what percentage of black people, criminal or not, are killed by criminals in their own community.

They actually need more policing, not less, because some of these neighborhoods are run entirely by thugs who kill any decent black person who just happens to be poor and have to live in that neighborhood. Last weekend, 27 black people, mostly younger black men, were killed by other black men in Chicago, probably because of the absence of police (who were busy with the looters).

Btw, many white immigrant neighborhoods had these problems in earlier generations - the Italians with the mafia families, the Irish with their politically connected thugs, etc. The true prejudice against blacks is thinking that this should be the norm for their neighborhoods and that the police should just shrug and walk away.


26 posted on 06/10/2020 10:08:17 AM PDT by livius
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