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Any upstate Freepers have inside info on this?
1 posted on 06/05/2020 3:37:41 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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Upstate bump/ info request


2 posted on 06/05/2020 3:38:50 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines (Their side circles the wagons. Our side revs up the bus)
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He drama queened the fall too much and paid for it. Like basketball players who put on an act when another player charges.


3 posted on 06/05/2020 3:39:40 PM PDT by Old Yeller (The Blessed Hope is imminent.)
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Saw “long-time peace activist” in the headline. Immediately translated that to Anti-American pinko.


4 posted on 06/05/2020 3:40:03 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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I saw the video...It was awful. The cops shoved the guy and he fell backwards...hit his head and was bleeding. The cop next to the one thaqt shoved him wanted to stop...but the "bad cop" forced the good cop to keep going.

A cop stopped and called and ambulance and a Mdeic was there within a minute.

This whole thing couldn't have been more than two minutes long.

6 posted on 06/05/2020 3:41:32 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Too bad he went to grab the cops belt. That gets you put on you ass...I don’t care who you are.


7 posted on 06/05/2020 3:42:02 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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Makes you wonder how he survived 75 years if he is dumb enough to think cops on a skirmish line moving forward are going to stand around and talk to him.


10 posted on 06/05/2020 3:44:00 PM PDT by Yogafist
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Peace activist? No trouble maker activist that was there last night to cause problems.


14 posted on 06/05/2020 3:47:29 PM PDT by The Mayor (I am outraged at your outrage toward the outrage!)
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Martin Gugino, Buffalo man pushed by police, is long-time peace activist

Well gee, they should have shot him on sight then.

17 posted on 06/05/2020 3:49:56 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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Long-time agitator for more government, got himself more government


19 posted on 06/05/2020 3:52:13 PM PDT by CrappieLuck
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The cops were moving. This guy walked into them. I imagine they told him to back off. The guy reached into the right cop. You never want that to happen. Is he going to grab you or your weapon? (There was a great earlier video of a guy reaching toward a cop's weapon and the guy get punched.) Why is the dummy carrying a helmet?

These people should know, "NEVER make a move on a cop doing his job." Such a protest veteran should know this.

The state of NY doesn't care about elderly people when they mixed Covid people in with the nursing homes. They should have fired the governor and the mayor.


24 posted on 06/05/2020 4:01:31 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Die-ggl,TWT,FCBK,NYT,WPo,Hwd,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antf,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA,ARP,MSNBC)
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He was a gentle giant...


29 posted on 06/05/2020 4:10:01 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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From the article:
He would never resist physically any kind of orders.

Until we hear of any verbal directives by the LEO's, that may be true but it isn't relevant. In this instance, physical resistance alone was enough to warrant reaction by the LEO's.

This large individual was aggressively physically blocking the path of approaching LEO's. That, even in this setting, no doubt is a criminal violation in many jurisdictions.

In the course of that confrontation he touched an active officer with an unknown mechanical device in two quick instances. We don't know from the video if he was ignoring lawful police directives or directing profanity towards the officer during the attempted blocking.

Some would argue that is actionable obstruction of justice.

Perhaps the only issue is whether the LEO's used unreasonable force resulting in injury. A well-balanced, fully informed jury composed of American citizens would likely find it was not.

33 posted on 06/05/2020 4:16:36 PM PDT by frog in a pot (Biden, Hillary, Michelle O, Kamala Harris, Stacy Abrams and Pelosi is what they have come to.)
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On another thread it was posted that in the still shots you can see tubing running behind his ear, and along the mask to his temple area. The “blood” appeared to be dye packs used to simulate blood in movies.

It seemed that he was poking the bear to get the reaction he got so he could appear to be a bloody mess to set up the cops.


37 posted on 06/05/2020 4:45:38 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Nothing happens to a Christian that God does not allow to happen.)
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why was his helmet off and in his left hand?

why did he approach the officers to prevent them from making an arrest?

why was he poking both officers with his cell phone and looking like he was hitting the officer’s holster?

and lastly, why didn’t the MSM show the two camo troops to the rear of the group kneel down and render assistance until the EMS showed up, which was called by the third cop from his shoulder mike, as he walked up and motioned for the first two to keep moving?

Getting pretty sick of cherry-picked MSM video


38 posted on 06/05/2020 4:46:19 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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He’s an experienced man who knows exactly how cops will and have to respond to someone obstructing their movement; he was prepared for it and he knows full well how to overact when the response does come.

You don’t have a history like he does and not learn anything.


47 posted on 06/05/2020 6:49:16 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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59 posted on 06/05/2020 7:18:16 PM PDT by conservativeimage (When you realize world leaders are continuing Charles Mansons HELTER SKELTER)
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The blood looks far too coagulated for having been thumped right then, I think they used fx coagulated special effects gel instead of the runnier stuff:

https://www.ebay.com/i/322283827269?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-213727-13078-0&mkcid=2&itemid=322283827269&targetid=4580840327039639&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=&poi=&campaignid=301076556&mkgroupid=1235851265215130&rlsatarget=pla-4580840327039639&abcId=1129776&merchantid=51291&msclkid=bbb15a85e6051d3f0a93045eed6f4453


75 posted on 06/05/2020 8:36:38 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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“That’s why he went to the demonstration. He would never resist physically any kind of orders.”

Bullsh*t. He was told to move back, and he ignored the cop. There is increasing evidence that the incident was staged. Look at close ups of his left hand, and right ear when he’s prone. It’s fairly clear that he had a squeeze bulb in his left hand, and a tube running to his ear. Also, notice how we haven’t heard a word about him since. The MSM would be all over this...


85 posted on 06/06/2020 12:32:01 AM PDT by thoolou (Seems the Information Age gives the illusion of information, while still being oblivious to the worl)
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believes that he must stand up for what he thinks is right,”

Then he needs to work on his balance....

87 posted on 06/06/2020 3:19:38 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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Martin Gugino
Lots of seasoned citizens have a similar problem. The live in a 75 year old body and their mind tells them they can perform the same as when their body was 30 years old.

Dude was prolly out protesting all day long, exhausted, hungry, and perhaps dehydrated. Therefore, NOT THINKING.

Dude confronts riot police and starts moving his hand around a police officers belt/pocket/holster. Police Officer shoves 75 year old dude away (Covid-6 feet!)

Dude stumbles backwards and falls on his back.
Why did Dude not break his fall with his arms???
Dude needed to save the cell phone in his right hand.
Dude had his helmet in his left hand, instead on putting helmet on his head.

Pro Tip, if you take your helmet to the protest, put your helmet on your head!


88 posted on 06/06/2020 9:01:43 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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