Posted on 06/05/2020 12:57:46 PM PDT by robowombat
Mattis's Trump broadside underscores military tensions BY MORGAN CHALFANT AND REBECCA KHEEL - 06/04/20 06:49 PM EDT
Former Defense Secretary James Mattiss stunning public criticism of President Trump is underscoring growing fears in the military that the president is compromising the integrity of the U.S. Armed Forces by threatening to use them against protesters.
Trump has urged governors to deploy National Guard troops to dominate the streets and stop violent demonstrations, saying he would dispatch U.S. military forces to states and cities that do not meet his demands.
On Monday, streets near the White House were forcibly cleared of peaceful protesters by federal law enforcement officers. That night, a National Guard Lakota helicopter flew low over protesters in the city in a show of force previously unthinkable in a U.S. city.
When I joined the military, some 50 years ago, I swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution, Mattis wrote Wednesday in The Atlantic. Never did I dream that troops taking that same oath would be ordered under any circumstance to violate the Constitutional rights of their fellow citizens much less to provide a bizarre photo op for the elected commander-in-chief, with military leadership standing alongside.
Mattiss criticism of Trump was striking because he avoided critiquing a president he clearly disagreed with on policy during a recent book tour. Mattis is also a highly respected figure in the military, which made his criticism all the more striking to observers.
David Hansell, an Air Force veteran and former director of transportation security policy in former President Obamas National Security Council, said the criticism reflects worries among military leaders that a president is calling on the armed forces to be used against not a foreign enemy, but U.S. citizens.
He said the concerns are particularly acute because military leaders know what that would mean.
People who have commanded men and women in combat realize the implications of what is being asked and it is frightening them, he said.
Some of the criticism of Trump this week has come from predictable voices, such as retired Gen. John Allen, who led U.S. forces in Afghanistan, served as former President Obamas envoy to the anti-ISIS coalition and campaigned with Democrat Hillary Clinton in 2016.
Others had previously been more subdued, including former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Adm. Mike Mullen, who wrote an op-ed Tuesday saying Trump has laid bare his disdain for the rights of peaceful protest in this country.
It was Mattiss scorching rebuke, though, that got the attention of some GOP lawmakers, too. Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) expressed support for his comments Thursday and offered an extraordinary admission that she was struggling with whether to vote for Trump in 2020.
Trump lambasted Mattis as the worlds most overrated general in a series of tweets, criticizing the retired four-star Marine generals leadership style and celebrating the fact he had left the Cabinet post.
In an interview with Fox News, White House deputy press secretary Hogan Gidley described Mattis as out of touch and unaware of massive rioting taking place across the country.
Its obvious that the general doesnt have a clue whats going on in the American cities out there, or hes actually, worse, turned a blind eye to it, Gidley said. The president is solely focused on uniting this country and actually bringing back safety and security in our American cities.
Those critiques may be enough for Trumps true faithful to turn away from the Mattis criticism, but experts on the military said it would be unwise to underestimate the retired generals respect in armed forces circles.
Risa Brooks, a political science professor at Marquette University who specializes in civil-military relations, said Mattis is really respected, and if anyone can make an impression, it's probably him.
Brooks, though, also expressed concern about the effect Mattis and other retired generals speaking out could have on the militarys apolitical image, saying it's not a healthy dynamic to look to the military to solve our problems for us.
A Morning Consult poll released Monday found that 49 percent of registered voters in military households would vote for Trump if the election were held today, compared to 41 percent who would vote for presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden.
The same poll also found that 58 percent of registered voters either strongly or somewhat support cities calling in the U.S. military to supplement city police forces, while 30 percent either strongly or somewhat oppose doing so.
Tensions between Pentagon leaders and Trump have been evident since protesters were cleared from Lafayette Square on Monday before Trump walked to St. Johns Episcopal Church to hold a Bible for a photo-op.
Defense Secretary Mark Esper, who succeeded Mattis, accompanied Trump on the walk to the church and has been widely criticized for it.
On Wednesday, he said he did not realize the president was holding a photo op. More importantly, he publicly broke with Trump on the use of the Insurrection Act, saying he would oppose calling in active duty troops to control protests.
Esper has also ordered the withdrawal of some U.S. troops from the Washington, D.C., area.
Officials who break with Trump publicly are generally on thin ice, and the White House on Wednesday and Thursday dodged questions about whether the president retained confidence in his defense secretary.
Trump on Wednesday said he didnt think he would ultimately have to send U.S. troops into cities but maintained he would do so to ensure law and order. The president has particularly focused on New York City, which has seen looting, vandalism and other disruption due to protests. State officials have resisted bringing in the National Guard.
While Trump has faced criticism, some in the defense community say invoking the law could be appropriate if violent encounters persist.
Lt. Gen. Tom Spoehr, director of the Heritage Foundations Center for National Defense, argued that Trumps decision to raise it could work to pressure governors and mayors to take a more aggressive approach to cracking down on violent protests.
I think the levels of violence we saw and we were seeing on Monday and on the weekend, I do not think that it would be inappropriate, said Spoehr. But you want to make sure thats the last resort.
Ex-Joint Chiefs chairman: Trump threat to use military on protesters... Ex-Defense secretary criticizes Trump for using military for '... After Espers news conference on Wednesday, members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff began releasing their own statements acknowledging racial injustices in both the nation at large and the military specifically.
The statements also reminded troops of their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution, including the right to freedom of speech and to peaceably assemble a reminder many outside observers read as an implicit rebuke to Trumps calls for a military response to the protests.
We all committed our lives to the idea that is America, Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Mark Milley hand wrote in a memo to the force released Wednesday. We will stay true to that oath and the American people.
Tensions?
Well. Mutiny would be tense. So I guess so.
the Egyptian military saved Egypt and their PEOPLE,
but the US military (except for the Marines)
decided to shiv the ELECTED PRESIDENT.
no wonder they bombed their own building.
I doubt that many people in the Pentagon respect Trump, certainly not among the senior officers. But I suspect that it is very different among the military rank and file outside of Washington.
The Fraud replaced a LOT of brass with our country’s sworn enemies.
Trump should have walked to the Pentagon instead of St. Johns and fumigated the place of the Obama commissars.
I’d say that the concern is that the Military has a serious TDS infection.
If the senior officers in the Pentagon arent queers, they are political hack wannabes!
I think we are being feed a lot of coordinated misinformation. They want to keep us all in fear.
Trump is 'running away' from wars. So, i'm not surprised.
Look how Trump made that deal to free ALL Afghanistan prisoners so we can leave. I bet the Generals are very upset. They want to FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!!
Smells like BS.
Only in a parallel universe...
I always liked Mattis. Even served under him in a combat zone.
And then he went public with a spat with the president, while in command and in uniform, on fervently disagreeing with Trump on pulling out of Syria and Afghanistan.
I was like if any other officer did that, he/she would have been removed in a heart beat. And sent home with a GOMAR.
I knew he had lost it.
And then he went on the board of the fake blood testing company and inferred they had military contracts.
Every one of our fag officers saluted the transgenderizing of our military
Remember: No military officer ever rises above 0-6 who has not sworn and proven his fealty to the deep state. Been that way since Korea.
Former Defense Secretary James Mattis
David Hansell, former director of transportation security policy in former President Obamas National Security Council,
retired Gen. John Allen, former President Obamas envoy to the anti-ISIS coalition (from October 1, 2007, to September 30, 2011 - Obama)
Sen. Lisa Murkowski (Rino-Alaska)
Risa Brooks, a political science professor at Marquette University
OK, only after hearing from that lineup do we get this (paragraph 28)
“Lt. Gen. Tom Spoehr, director of the Heritage Foundations Center for National Defense, argued that Trumps decision to raise it could work to pressure governors and mayors to take a more aggressive approach to cracking down on violent protests.”
Which is the glaring truth in a muddy lake of never-Trump rhetoric.
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When I joined the military, some 50 years ago, I swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution,
So are you really doing that now?
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Someday when the US collides with a real existential threat all hell is going to break lose and one only hopes we will not follow in the footsteps of France in 1940,
Oh please. Mattis was a 4 star Marine General not too long ago and so was Kelly. They are both ate up POS who did their best to shiv the ELECTED PRESIDENT. IIRC, one of Mattis’ first acts as Secretary of Defense was to virtue signal by countermanding the no trannies in the military EO signed by POTUS. I am not very impressed with the sense of duty or the loyalty to the nation either man displayed. I wonder how many of their acolytes are in power positions in the USMC? I would guess a lot of them and they are all probably as hostile to POTUS as those two.
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