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To Prevent Another George Floyd Tragedy, We Must Fix Police Unions
The Federalist ^ | June 3, 2020 | Daniel Buck

Posted on 06/03/2020 7:51:01 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

We have laws...Obey them...


21 posted on 06/03/2020 8:04:13 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Kaslin

Minneapolis is Rat from top to bottom. Rat governor, Rat mayor and on and on. Rat City Attorney Klobuchar didn’t bother to do anything about this Chauvin guy even after complaints of serious misconduct. Minneapolis could not be more thoroughly Rat-infested. So, no, the problem isn’t the police unions. The problems is this rodent infestation in all of the Blue areas of the country.


22 posted on 06/03/2020 8:06:16 AM PDT by Thilly Thailor
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To: Kaslin

Maybe the police should have some changes made, but why doesn’t ANYONE ever suggest that blacks themselves change their behavior so that they don’t bring themselves into so much contact with the police?


23 posted on 06/03/2020 8:07:32 AM PDT by euram
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To: shelterguy
I got my information from the Statement of Probable Cause for the ex-policeman's arrest for 3rd degree murder, and manslaughter.

Not the press.

Why are you objecting so hard to "get rid of the bad apples" ?

24 posted on 06/03/2020 8:10:39 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Kaslin

This is an excellent piece. I know conservatives like me like to rail on teachers unions because I believe they’re in it for themselves and don’t give a hoot about children. But if we were honest with ourselves, I think we have a blind spot when it comes to cops and even police unions. But public sector unions of every kind should not exist including police unions. Striking and collective bargaining certainly should not be allowed if you’re on the public dole.


25 posted on 06/03/2020 8:11:43 AM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: ClearCase_guy

FU


26 posted on 06/03/2020 8:12:40 AM PDT by Dartoid
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To: Kaslin

Unions for public workers should be abolished.


27 posted on 06/03/2020 8:14:38 AM PDT by yardboyd (Call me a rose.... or leave me alone.)
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To: grey_whiskers

You can decide to believe what you want from the cherry picked “evidence” the media throws out.

I will wait until everything is out at the trial.

“””’Why are you objecting so hard to “get rid of the bad apples” ?””””””””””””””””””

I have never said any such thing.

I believe in due process and the right to a vigorous defense.

Have you ever heard of due process?

If you believed what you see in the media then the Duke LaCrosse boys would have been in prison for live within two minutes.


28 posted on 06/03/2020 8:17:49 AM PDT by shelterguy
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To: Sacajaweau

Excellent point.


29 posted on 06/03/2020 8:22:57 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

The only way to fix public unions is to abolish them. They are an abomination.

Private unions are fine as long as management has the right to fire and rehire after good faith negotiations have failed.


30 posted on 06/03/2020 8:26:35 AM PDT by yuleeyahoo (The nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master and deserves one. Hamilton)
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To: Kaslin
I’ll repost something I posted the other day:

I think it's high time for conservatives to get off this idea that we should reflexively defend police officers because they somehow reinforce our idea of a "law and order" society.

That's nonsense. An armed citizen should reinforce our idea of a "law and order" society. A police officer is emblematic of: (1) a society where crime is so rampant that a permanent police presence is needed, and/or (2) a citizenry too weak and cowardly to defend itself and who see the police as nothing more than taxpayer-funded security guards.

31 posted on 06/03/2020 8:36:31 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("We're human beings ... we're not f#%&ing animals." -- Dennis Rodman, 6/1/2020)
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To: Kaslin

A couple possible fixes would be to vastly increase prison terms leaving much fewer repeat offenders out there to resist arrest and get themselves killed. Another thing that might help black America is creating better jobs in urban areas like one of Trump’s initiatives of bringing manufacturing and factory jobs back to America.


32 posted on 06/03/2020 8:41:35 AM PDT by McCarthysGhost (q)
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To: Kaslin

That is not the only problem. Spend more time reviewing who or what causes these these problems.


33 posted on 06/03/2020 8:43:23 AM PDT by mulligan ( En bbnnEeThe tC)
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To: PghBaldy

“Given that horrible unrest happens even if a white policeman was justified in killing a black thug, it is impossible to fix the problem without addressing the systematic pathology of the black community and the Democrat Party.”

Agreed.


34 posted on 06/03/2020 8:45:23 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: shelterguy
You're trolling again.

I did not get ANY of my information from the media.

I read the statement of probable cause against the arrested ex-policeman.

35 posted on 06/03/2020 8:46:41 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Kaslin

Here’s the fix, school reform. K-12 is ruinous for the Black race.


36 posted on 06/03/2020 8:47:02 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (#openupstateny)
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To: shelterguy
The problem is the due process is only reserved for Deep State Swampies, the politically connected, and crooked or evil state agents.

The extreme due care for due process given to state actors, BY THE PROSECUTORS, should be exercised for all citizens, but it is not.

It's the two-tiered justice system that IS the problem.

37 posted on 06/03/2020 8:48:38 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Kaslin

Balderdash..... pure drivel

To fix the problem there must be cessation by force of all attempts to resist arrest.

In all cases of rioting there is resisting arrest at the root. Police must be empowered to incapacitate resisters to bring about cessation of the resistance. The civil rights of the police are violated when resisters endanger the police doing their jobs making an arrest.


38 posted on 06/03/2020 8:51:05 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: grey_whiskers

And with that you determined the cop to be guilty of whatever they charge him with.

The POS muslim Antifa supporter Ellison is in charge of going after the guy. He will probably charge him with being the second gunman on the grassy knoll by the time this is over.

Again, do you know what due process is?

Are you unable to understand that people have the right to defend themselves?


39 posted on 06/03/2020 8:51:41 AM PDT by shelterguy
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To: grey_whiskers

“”””””’I did not get ANY of my information from the media.””””

Interesting. So you found the toxicology report by yourself.
Good.

Did you notice it said fentanyl intoxication and meth?

Do you know what that means?


40 posted on 06/03/2020 8:53:37 AM PDT by shelterguy
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