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To: NautiNurse
fentanyl intoxication; and recent methamphetamine use.

I only ask a single question: Would the perp be alive today if he had not resisted arrest? I don't justify anyone's action, I was not there and would not convict someone of murder based solely on a selective video clip.
3 posted on 06/01/2020 4:25:12 PM PDT by JoSixChip
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To: JoSixChip

‘I was not there and would not convict someone of murder based solely on a selective video clip.’

plenty of juries have been requested to render guilty verdicts on far less evidence...


8 posted on 06/01/2020 4:29:11 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: JoSixChip
What is a selective video clip?

I watched the man slowly die in a tortured ~9 minute video while in custody of and pinned down by three LEO. The man's repeated pleas that he could not breathe, his stomach hurt, and "don't kill me" were ignored. When the man was no longer moving, the LEO did not discontinue forceful restraint. When the man stopped breathing, the LEO did not provide basic medical assistance.

What selective video clip are you referring to?

9 posted on 06/01/2020 4:34:11 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Don't be a pinhead.)
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To: JoSixChip

” I was not there and would not convict someone of murder based solely on a selective video clip. “

LOL! We already have testimony written that he was dead when the medics arrive and still the cop kept the knee hold.


15 posted on 06/01/2020 4:37:18 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: JoSixChip

A dirty cop is a dirty cop and that’s what matters here.

Why such focus on the perp? I don’t get it. The assault on a handcuffed and unconscious prisoner under color of law is what all conservatives should be livid about. Some how I can’t help but think if this happened at a Trump rally it might be viewed differently.


16 posted on 06/01/2020 4:38:18 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: JoSixChip

He had already been arrested and was in handcuffs.


17 posted on 06/01/2020 4:38:39 PM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: JoSixChip

Once you are handcuffed and on your chest on the ground, what more force is needed for the next ten minutes to keep someone under control?

Eff the cop.


78 posted on 06/01/2020 5:31:18 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: JoSixChip

Jo—the video clip was not “selective”.

There was a full, unedited, uncut, no-monkey-business 9-minutes-straight video, taken while the victim was on the ground handcuffed.

The now-ex-policeman facing murder 3 and manslaughter, had his knee on the victim’s neck the ENTIRE time.

One of his fellow policemen, ON THAT VIDEO, takes the guys pulse and finds the victim’s heart isn’t beating.

Mr. Kneecap does not start CPR.
He does not even check the pulse for himself.
He stays there with his knee on the victim’s neck for over 2 more minutes.

There are severe civil rights implications to this, because once you are handcuffed, you are “in custody”. People forget that means, the police now have an affirmative duty of care towards you.

Mr. Kneecap is a trained first responder. He doesn’t even go through the motions of lifesaving measures.

he’s toast.

For the “if he didn’t resist” bullcrap?
An unconscious man (he passed out before the pulse was taken IIRC), lying down and handcuffed, is not an imminent threat to life or limb.
Potentially deadly force is not allowed at that point.

As far as the arrest, he had been accused of passing a single counterfeit $20. The police are on video trying to pull him out of his car. If he’s in his car, he’s not exactly rampaging around with a bazooka. They could’ve just put chocks on the wheels so it couldn’t move, and waited for him to get out to go to the bathroom. Or arrested him peacefully at home a couple of days later.


101 posted on 06/01/2020 5:57:35 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: JoSixChip

Would he be alive today, if he wasn’t passing phoney $20’s?


138 posted on 06/01/2020 6:26:41 PM PDT by Fireone (Build the gallows first, then the wall!)
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To: JoSixChip

Your question becomes irrelevant after video proof the cop had his knee on the neck (cutting off blood supply to brain) for 9 minutes and for almost 3 minutes after victim became unresponsive...if the cop(s) had handled it properly, we wouldn’t have this $#!+-storm.


226 posted on 06/02/2020 3:15:53 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: JoSixChip
Would the perp be alive today if he had not resisted arrest?

I would immediately respond where is the evidence he DID resist arrest? So far I ain't seen nuthin.......

Now they are saying that he appeared to be having a medical event and if that were true, that wouldn't explain why he was cuffed on his stomach, face down with the cop's knee on his neck........

At this point, it isn't a matter of guilt, it's how much time the cop is going to spend in prison..........

276 posted on 06/02/2020 1:49:54 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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