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All Hell Broke Loose In Minneapolis and 'Armed Rednecks' Stepped In to Protect Businesses
townhall.com ^ | 5/28/2020 | Beth Baumann

Posted on 05/28/2020 7:36:51 AM PDT by rktman

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To: marktwain; Lurker; VanDeKoik
If there were several minutes of active, violent resistance by the suspect before he is held on the ground, there are many possibilities for his death, other than being killed by a police officer.

There doesn't seem to have been any such resistance: https://www.nbcnews.com/video/new-security-video-shows-events-leading-up-to-george-floyd-s-arrest-83971141769

Don't know what the gap between this video and the initial video shows, but I think the police were way, way out of line on this one.
41 posted on 05/28/2020 8:13:55 AM PDT by Jagermonster ("God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him." 1 John 4:16, NKJV.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

>Were the rioters regular Amish or Somali Amish?

I watched some live streams of the rioting last night and saw just as many if not more white people involved. Idiots are going to idiot, no matter what their race.


42 posted on 05/28/2020 8:14:25 AM PDT by Tejas Rob
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To: Uncle Miltie

Your in a NO LOOTING ZONE you feel lucky.


43 posted on 05/28/2020 8:14:38 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

” All 4 officers involved have already been fired, and there is a local, state, and federal investigation of the crime.”

I’m absolutely not sticking up for any of them - but doesn’t this procedure seem a bit ass-backwards to anyone else?


44 posted on 05/28/2020 8:16:48 AM PDT by Pravious
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To: Lurker
This was cold blooded murder.

Period.

No, it was not.

Not even close.

It is obvious from the interchange between the police and the bystanders, that George Loyd had violently fought with the officers, resisting being put in the police car, for several minutes before the video starts.

When you watch the video, for the first about 4 minutes, George Loyd is still vigorously attempting to get out from under the control of the officer who has his knee on the back of George Loyd's neck. The officer is *not* obstructing the airway, as George Loyd repeatedly talks to the officer complaining that he cannot breathe.

But he obviously could breathe, because he was talking for four minutes! You cannot talk unless you can breathe.

The officers repeatedly make comments about how he should not do drugs. This is probably in response the severe resistance they encountered in attempting to get him into the car.

Let us see the medical report.

In the position the officer's knee was, it does not obstruct the airway.

Try it yourself. Put yourself on the floor. Have someone put their knee on the back of your neck in the same position. See if it stops your breathing.

45 posted on 05/28/2020 8:17:18 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: SMARTY
...and bystanders are guilty too

Really? Bystanders were supposed to rush 4 armed cops during an arrest?

AKA 'How to get your ass shot'.

46 posted on 05/28/2020 8:17:31 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Extremism.)
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To: rktman

‘Armed Rednecks’

Unfortunate choice of words. Sounds like a private security firm.


47 posted on 05/28/2020 8:19:16 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: Kickass Conservative

>The Left says the Police Officer did this ONLY because the Perp was Black.

Which is bullshit because they will do the same to a white person and in fact something much like this happened in Dallas about a year ago to a white guy.

I think too many on the right think the police are their allies, but they are not. We’ve seen in this recent Corona virus crap them enforcing illegal orders. We saw them stand idly by as Trump supporters were chased and beaten back during the campaign.

Smaller community officers might be better, but these larger city departments are there to protect the ruling class. They will obey their masters and we are not their masters.


48 posted on 05/28/2020 8:20:13 AM PDT by Tejas Rob
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To: null and void

These kinds of things originate in HR.

As ‘experts’ people in HR lord their authority over everyone and get to play God with peoples’ lives.

But they routinely get it wrong... as we are finding that most ‘experts’ do. It’s become a sick culture when people in HR (THEMSELVES trained and hired to screen these people) can’t ID problems so basic.

Personnel ‘experts’ have ONE JOB and if that guy was unstable or worse, he should NEVER have got that job. It sounds like HR knew and he still was hired. How does that happen?


49 posted on 05/28/2020 8:20:27 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Nobility is defined by the demands it makes on us - by obligations, not by rights".)
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To: rktman

“redneck” was a self-description from the interview, not the author’s assessment.


50 posted on 05/28/2020 8:20:35 AM PDT by G Larry (The People must shutdown the tyrants.)
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To: SMARTY

Isn’t that the same police force who put the Somali guy on the payroll and then he shot a woman from his car? Sounds like Minneapolis is out of control. At least their hiring practices.


51 posted on 05/28/2020 8:20:48 AM PDT by Bernard ("I don't know if that's true:" Schiff said.)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

Other officers standing around and watching... didn’t they have a responsibility too?


52 posted on 05/28/2020 8:21:26 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Nobility is defined by the demands it makes on us - by obligations, not by rights".)
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To: Bernard

You’re right.


53 posted on 05/28/2020 8:22:01 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Nobility is defined by the demands it makes on us - by obligations, not by rights".)
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To: marktwain

>Have someone put their knee on the back of your neck in the same position.

How about someone do that to you, then come tell us about it.


54 posted on 05/28/2020 8:22:53 AM PDT by Tejas Rob
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To: Tejas Rob

>>>We saw them stand idly by as Trump supporters were chased and beaten back during the campaign<<<

Which is my point. Why wasn’t that the Lead on every News Broadcast at the time? We already know, don’t we?


55 posted on 05/28/2020 8:23:02 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: marktwain

I don’t think he was choked to death at this point, but a large man laying on his chest on concrete with the weight of another man on his back can result in positional asphyxia. In this scenario, the officer is still responsible for his death.

The man was helpless and in the officer’s custody, but the officer failed to ensure his well being.

Anyway, this is just a theory, and I also think that the toxicology results are relevant.


56 posted on 05/28/2020 8:24:34 AM PDT by chris37 (China's Gift wasn't born in a bowl of bat soup.)
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To: marktwain

Well ‘allegedly’? What the LEO did sure didn’t help the situation.


57 posted on 05/28/2020 8:25:04 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: redfreedom
Many years ago a journalistic narrative was built around facts.

When?

"You provide the pictures and I'll provide the war." William Randolph Hearst, 1898

And THAT boys and girls is how we got the Spanish American War.

58 posted on 05/28/2020 8:25:19 AM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: Vision

59 posted on 05/28/2020 8:26:35 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba ("It's a lie. It's all lies.")
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To: redfreedom

#factsdontmatter We know that is a fact.


60 posted on 05/28/2020 8:28:03 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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