Posted on 05/28/2020 7:36:51 AM PDT by rktman
I just did. See post 45.
A body cam view has just been released showing George violently resisting officers from the very first, as he is being taken from his car.
As we have very little evidence so far. You have asked me for possibilities.
Here are a few.
He had heart problems, and his violent exertions against the police resulted in a heart failure.
He was experiencing the effects of an overdose of drugs. Pretty commonly experienced during police work. A real problem with meth.
He experienced a stroke, brought on by the exertion or previous conditions.
His extreme exertions resulted in an aneurysm (bursting of a blood vessel) in the brain, causing pressure inside the skull, and death.
There are a few.
Let us see the autopsy results.
And all of that is stupid, and a sorry attempt at trying to excuse this cop’s actions.
“Uh, he totally had a heart attack! The knee on the neck totally had nothing to do with it at all!”
It’s like that lady shot by the cop in Minnesota a while back didn’t actually kill her, but it could have been an allergic reaction due to PMS.
The officer knew exactly what he was doing by taking the action he did. There are at least two instances in the video where the officer can be seen rocking forward, placing more pressure on the suspect with his left leg. There are times when his right leg is moving which means that the majority of the officer's weight was indeed on the person's neck.
This was supposed to be a trained officer, and he was unable to control an individual that was cuffed? It also shows his complete regard in that he made no attempt to check on the individual when he became completely silent and unmoving.
I have little time for criminals, but what happened to this individual cannot be acceptable.
As much as someone might be distressed if confronted by LEO for some reported transgression, compliance would seem to be the thing to do and then fight it later. Trying to fight it in the street will usually end badly. If someone is under the influence, all bets are off. No reasoning with the unreasonable.
Wow. Any other way you can twist every action into police bashing?
You total avoid why the police were holding him that way.
Did you notice how much effort he was using to still try to get up, and out of control?
Did you notice he was a very strong, muscular man?
All he had to do was to comply with the police.
Did you notice the police sent for an ambulance, right away?
True, he stops resisting about two minutes before the officer takes his knee off the neck, after the ambulance arrives.
When the EMT from the ambulance arrives, the first thing done is to check for a pulse.
We need to stop rushing to lynch people electronically before any investigation is done.
Videos can lie by not telling all the truth.
Narratives are formed by what you are told the video shows.
The movement also shows he is removing some pressure from time to time.
It does not show the officer deliberately cutting off the air supply.
He isn't doing that, which is why you can hear George talking.
>>Which is my point. Why wasn’t that the Lead on every News Broadcast at the time? We already know, don’t we?
Yes, we do. Certain groups are protected by the corporate media. It all amounts to, the main stream media is the enemy of the people. They enable all of this.
“I just did. See post 45. “
“He had heart problems, and his violent exertions against the police resulted in a heart failure. “
“He experienced a stroke, brought on by the exertion or previous conditions. “
Yeah, ok. Sure. That was totally it. The same line of used with Eric Garner to excuse THAT as well:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3772876/posts
“...
Garner wasn’t killed by a choke hold.
Garner was killed by his own size and weight.
Very sad, but the cop didn’t kill him,.”
I guess when video makes excuse-making hard, just make up a medical condition and claim that killed the person first just in time.
All 4 officers involved have already been fired,
That is a legal impossibility. The officers must be given prior notice, a hearing and opportunity to be heard. What routinely happens in these cases is the officers are placed on paid administrative leave until a hearing takes place and a decision is made.
The hearing is mandatory for all government employees, per the U.S. Supreme Court. It is called a Loudermill hearing, from Cleveland Board of Education v. Loudermill, 470 U.S. 532 (1985). Loudermill at 546 states:
The essential requirements of due process, and all that respondents seek or the Court of Appeals required, are notice and an opportunity to respond. The opportunity to present reasons, either in person or in writing, why proposed action should not be taken is a fundamental due process requirement. See Friendly, "Some Kind of Hearing," 123 U. Pa. L. Rev. 1267, 1281 (1975). The tenured public employee is entitled to oral or written notice of the charges against him, an explanation of the employer's evidence, and an opportunity to present his side of the story. See Arnett v. Kennedy, 416 U. S., at 170-171 (opinion of POWELL, J.); id., at 195-196 (opinion of WHITE, J.); see also Goss v. Lopez, 419 U. S., at 581. To require more than this prior to termination would intrude to an unwarranted extent on the government's interest in quickly removing an unsatisfactory employee.
The same way their Somali muzzlime officer murdered the white Justine Damond, shooting her after she called the police to investigate a possible home intruder.
Then there are situations where someone with an emotional background where they seek out professions that allow them power over others, whom they deem less worthy than themselves, where they take the term “criminal justice” gives them the obligation to deliver such justice.
Lastly, while I have no knowledge of the setting here but many times the police are held in such low regard by elected officials whose a opinions are well known to the public in general and their own heierarchy are toothless brown noses to those they deem power brokers and they desire “perks” from these folk that their own rank and file know they are not valued and their very lives in constant danger, while their education and experience renders them few other choices should they leave their jobs, they then act out of either real or perceived fear of the criminals in the communities they are sworn to protect.
Wow. Any other way you can twist every action into police bashing? “
So saying that this cop killed this guy = “police bashing”
Is being critical of the looters also = “racism” or am I allowed to single-out people for their actions?
“Did you notice he was a very strong, muscular man? “
I dont give a damn what he was. He was in cuffs, on the ground, and with a knee on his neck for several minutes after he had stopped moving and that guy didnt once ease off of him with two other cops there that, as I can clearly see, were not needed to hold him down.
“When the EMT from the ambulance arrives, the first thing done is to check for a pulse. “
And what about all the time BEFORE when he clearly was not moving?
“Did you notice the police sent for an ambulance, right away? “
So??? What swell guys!
“Videos can lie by not telling all the truth. “
More like a naive hope that this guy is completely innocent based on the most out-of-frame evidence since the JFK assassination.
The officer hasn't even been arrested yet. This is why the riots occurred.
It is the opposite of reason and the rule of law.
When you read about Eric Gardner, you see the same thing. It was his underlying medical conditions which killed him, which an ordianary, reasonable person would not know about or assume.
Notice a grand jury did not indict officer Pantaleo in the Gardiner case.
A voice of reason.. and truth. Thanks for posting. https://youtu.be/CUKZfwWwa_Q?t=360
An investigation must be done.
He and others will pay a price.
But what does that have to do
with neighborhood stores being
looted and burned.
Protest is one thing.
Looting and and burning
is another.
Good point. I’ve never heard of a reptile shop being looted before.
In this case it is not how did he GET his job. The real question is that he had many complaints in his position, why was he still there?
Well, there are about 200 news stories that say they were fired, and not one that says that they are on paid administrative leave.
i have no input as to the legality of them being fired, but it seems like at least one news story would have picked up on such a discrepancy.
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