Posted on 05/23/2020 8:18:42 PM PDT by lightman
so where’s Sweden’s EXPONENTIAL CURVE?
nowhere to be found. final word on Sweden might take years, but give thanks they have provided a control group, to some extent.
LOL!
The WuFlu has a 99.5% survival rate. Not exactly terrifying.
The WuFlu is not on the same planet as the nightmarish Spanish Flu.
Lives have been completely destroyed as a result of the draconian, cruel lockdowns. Untold numbers of small businesses will never return, people are losing their life’s savings, families are being plunged into poverty.
The rates of Domestic and child abuse have risen and the suicide rates have exploded.
This country could very well experience The Great Depression, the Sequel. Personally, I would rather be dead than to experience such misery.
Also, President Trump could very well lose the election because of the destruction of the economy. Most people on FR, including myself, know that the fault lies with Dr. Fauxi, certain Blue State Governors and the MSM, but never underestimate the stupidity and the gullibility of the average American voter.
The media will be working overtime to lay the blame at Trump’s feet.
Forgive my French, but f**k the vaccine. There is no way in Hell that I will ever consent to a vaccine for the Chinese virus and no vaccine is needed for a virus with a 99.5% survival rate.
I’m embarrassed to admit that I just recently learned about the Hong Kong Flu pandemic. I have been reading about it and hearing about the event from those who experienced it.
The country wasn’t shut down for that pandemic. Heck, even Woodstock took place during that time.
I’m over this scamdemic. OVER. IT.
Thankfully, I’m in a Red State that is now open for business. I delight at the wrath of the Facebook Karens as they meltdown over the bustling, crowded Alabama beaches.
yes, case fatality rate is misleading if they are getting herd immunity
Excuse me, but where do you get that number?
Right now, there have been 5407414 cases and 344,025 deaths worldwide. That comes out to 344,025/5,407,414 x 100, or 6.362% death rate. That isn't even close to a 0.5% death rate that you claim (without providing a shred of evidence).
It is really, really important for people to understand the danger of this virus. If you do not understand it, you don't take it seriously, we're going to be stuck with it. I have no desire to have a virus that causes a 6-7% death rate circulating freely. The economic and societal disruption that will cause will not be easy to recover from.
Oh, and Covid-19 is not a flu. It is a cold. A very deadly cold. A cold that we either eradicate now, or suffer a lot of disruption to our society.
How do you eradicate the cold virus? It has never been done.
The death rate is less than 0,5%, even the CDC admits that. For 50% of people that get this it is it even a cold, they are asymptomatic For most of the rest of people not is the sniffles. A few get sick and of those a few get very sick and die. Over half of the fatalities are from nursing homes.
This virus is here to stay it is in the community and there is no eradicating it. it will become endemic like all the other viral illnesses we live with. Airs time to get in with life.
And won’t be eradicated now. It will settle down into an endemic rate in the population within a year or two and be just another of the multiple respiratory viruses we see every fall. A vaccine would be helpful but I suspect if we get one it will be like the flu vaccine. Helpful but not anywhere near 100%. It may even become an annual vaccine added to the flu vaccine depending on the mutation rate - that remains to be seen. Meanwhile there is no evidence all the economic self inflicted injury has done anything except harm many more people than will ever contract the illness. Even the most rabid proponents of lockdowns and social distancing admit it will not change the number of people who ultimately contract the disease - they just want to “flatten the curve”. something that they can’t prove the current charade is doing. Time to open up and get on with life.
My oldest son is Four Chan contributor
He watched the New Zealand Muslim killing in real time
The killer played everything from AC/DC to Wehrmacht choir anthem as he slaughtered Muslims
I told my son he’d better watch himself
I told him half the contributors were like undercover cops told
He was part of that flag tracking thing a few years ago
They found it I think near Morristown Tennessee
Something to take into account...those flu death numbers are for “flu season” which is 6 months - the latest figure I’ve seen for Covid-19 deaths in U.S. is over 97,000 in about 1/2 a flu season.
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Were you drinking when typing that? LOL
I was exaggerating :)
We Italians are known to do that.
Tell one story to a person at the long end of a table at an Italian family dinner and by the time it gets to the other side the original story won’t be recognizable :)
I feel for those who have died and those who have lost loved ones.
The only person I know is a close friend of a friend on here.
I should be more sensitive with my posts about it.
Still say the lockdown was wrong, but not hurt anybody for no reason.
Especially since the person who lost someone is a very dear and nice person who is grieving.
The ratio you post is the CFR (Case Fatality Rate), which is the ratio of serious cases being treated to the number that died.
The missing information is that the “cases” is only a very small percentage of the total number infected.
What is important is the IFR (Infection Fatality Rate), which is the ratio of total number of infections to the number that died.
Several serious analyses have been done that indicate the IFR for Covid-19 in the USA is well below 0.3% and maybe as low as 0.1% roughly equivalent to the IFR for influenza.
The CFR being touted as the “death rate” is widely used by the “fear mongers” to keep people like you terrified and willing to support their power grab.
This virus is only slightly more deadly than regular flu, nowhere near the Spanish flu.
Everyone with regular flu is contagious also before symptoms appear. Many people with this flu do not ever have any symptoms or very mild ones.
Even WITH a vaccine for regular flu, some 80,000 still died.
You do not get rid of viruses...you build immunity to them in their present form and hope they do not mutate.
Every single prediction about this pandemic has turned out to be flat out wrong. Yet we persist as if the models that caused these decisions to be made are correct and prolong what has now become simply tyranny.
Its just the flu, bra...no need to gut the world over it.
The reason it looks like that now is because we do care. We try to do the right thing. We care about our old and young we care. This happened because we care. Maybe a bit too much. Americans have should they care. The various governors showed their stripes.
“The reason it looks like that now is because we do care.”
You didn’t do it for the cold, a cornavirus. You didn’t do it for the flu. You didn’t do it for cars that kill 45,000 people every year. You didn’t do it for guns that kill 35,000 people every year.
You don’t really care, you were forced into it by a tyrannical government and gaslighted into supporting it.
I watched it unfold as you did. Safety was never supposed to be at the expense of liberty. It never is...
His address is the richest, old money neighborhood, where those fancying themselves aristocrats think they know what is best for we mere proles.
If we wanted to eradicate "the" cold virus, we would go about it using many of the same techniques that we have used to eradicate other diseases. We eradicated smallpox through massive vaccine programs and contact tracing. We eradicated rinderpest (a measles-like disease that affects livestock) through vaccination and isolation of infected animals. We are on track to eradicate measles, polio, and guinea worm disease. For measles and polio, we are able to achieve this by vaccine programs and quarantines. There is no vaccine against worms, but we are on the brink of eradicating guinea worm disease through active surveillance and treatment programs.
It is not even necessary to have a vaccine to wipe out diseases. Every time there is an Ebola or Marburg outbreak in Africa, it is a brand new outbreak. That means it is not circulating in the human population. And we have successfully eradicated Ebola and Marburg every time there has been an outbreak.
I have confidence in the ability of public health professionals to eradicate Covid-19. Unfortunately, some members of the general public seem not so keen on eradication and instead have latched onto conspiracy theories and ridiculous notions of infectious disease transmission, causing them to work actively against any measures to control and eradicate Covid-19.
Oh, and the reasons we've never tried (and probably won't try) to eradicate the common cold is that 1) it is an annoyance but not fatal, and 2) there are over 100 viruses that cause common colds.
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