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Can anyone explain why Hong Kong was given to the Chinese in the first place?


9 posted on 05/21/2020 8:49:30 PM PDT by ducttape45 ("Righteousness exalteth a nation; but sin is a reproach to any people." Proverbs 14:34)
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To: ducttape45
The 99-year lease between the UK and China came due 1997.

I have always thought that the British should have turned Hong Kong over to Taiwan and then Taiwan should have granted them their independence.

15 posted on 05/21/2020 8:54:23 PM PDT by Tai_Chung
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As Tai_Chung noted, the 99-year lease between the UK and China ended in 1997.

That was in no way a fair lease. What country would freely lease one of its cities to another country? It would be humiliating. The Hong Kong lease only happened because China was weak, and the UK was strong.

But now China is strong, and the UK is weak. So the UK had no option but to let Hong Kong go. One Chinese division could have overrun the city in a day. And then what could the UK have done? After all, the lease was over.


30 posted on 05/21/2020 9:46:46 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: ducttape45; Tai_Chung; Leaning Right

As Tai_Chung pointed out.

Though to go back, to the 1800s - the UK as an opium dealer wanted to sell to opium addicts in China. The Chinese govt said no, so the UK went to war. The UK won and got HK island in a 99 year lease. This is kind of like if the drug cartels go to war with the US and win and then force the USA to allow them to import drugs AND take Florida in a 99 year lease...

The assumption was that in 1997 China would still be weak. However WWI and II came and the situation changed.

A note - during most of the 99 years, the UK didn’t allow any semblance of democracy in HK - it was only the last governor, in the last few years who put in the democracy setup.

Under Thatcher the UK tried to negotiate an extension to the lease but the Chinese government said No.

BTW, the 99 year lease was over the “New Territories” - the mainland part of HK, while the island itself was occupied by the UK directly, no lease.

But without the New Territories, HK isn’t viable - no fresh water etc.

And the UK realized that giving it to Taiwan or not giving it to China was not viable - a legacy of colonialism surrounded by China? Not possible. So they gave it up.


46 posted on 05/21/2020 11:01:06 PM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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47 posted on 05/21/2020 11:02:18 PM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: ducttape45

“Can anyone explain why Hong Kong was given to the Chinese in the first place?”

Racism.

For once that’s the actual reason.


52 posted on 05/21/2020 11:24:54 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ducttape45; enumerated; LS; bitt; Pelham; thinden; Liz; Alberta's Child; 9YearLurker; semantic; ...
Can anyone explain why Hong Kong was given to the Chinese in the first place?

_____________

...... good question.

Can anyone explain how old time miserable JEWISH Senators like:

continue to make $$$$$$$ millions working for China?

This country has been corrupted by the same crowd for decades. (Those who shall not ne named...)

74 posted on 05/22/2020 3:03:15 AM PDT by a little elbow grease ( ....... F.Lee Levin)
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To: ducttape45
The British had a 99 year lease on part of what's now called "Hong Kong" (can't recall the exact details) that expired in 1997.Britain decided that the easiest way to deal with the situation was to just hand it over to the ChiComs rather than make any kind of fuss.

And BTW,Portugal had a similar arrangement in Macau,which is a short boat ride from Hong Kong.That lease expired in 1999.

To do anything but hand them over would have been stupid...China would have just rolled the tanks in if Britain and Portugal hadn't done so.

84 posted on 05/22/2020 5:20:36 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Just Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election!)
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To: ducttape45
Can anyone explain why Hong Kong was given to the Chinese in the first place?

Hong Kong has always been part of China.

The port was leased to the United Kingdom for 99 years in 1898.

The lease ran out.

89 posted on 05/22/2020 7:12:54 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Think like youÂ’re right, listen like youÂ’re wrong)
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To: ducttape45

Slick Willie was President. His She Wolf wife was selling State Secrets to the Chinese at the time.

Always follow the money!


101 posted on 05/22/2020 10:24:30 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: ducttape45

“Can anyone explain why Hong Kong was given to the Chinese in the first place?”


Perhaps we should ask Jimmy Carter, he has experience is such matters.


109 posted on 05/22/2020 2:26:59 PM PDT by Captain7seas (UN EXIT!)
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To: ducttape45

Because it is to small and highly populated to defend.
That said, the Bloody Britdogs did a piss poor job with the treaty. If you want to blame Margret Thather for anything, this is it.


117 posted on 05/22/2020 5:26:12 PM PDT by Fai Mao (There is no justice until The PIAPS is legally executed)
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To: ducttape45

Comon man! listen jack, these guys are a nice bunch of guys


144 posted on 05/23/2020 1:50:10 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: ducttape45

The UK did not want to risk a war with the PRC in 1999. A war which would have destroyed HK anyway.


156 posted on 05/24/2020 8:41:02 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: ducttape45

I assume for the same reason England handed their country over to Islam: England is run by insane people.


165 posted on 05/25/2020 9:18:09 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free equal justice under the law will never exist in the USA)
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To: ducttape45

The Brits abandoned them with the clear understanding as to what would transpire. The 50 year phase in was a farce and they knew it.

The West cowers. The long journey to the prelude to war.


185 posted on 05/27/2020 4:20:05 PM PDT by whistleduck
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