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Homeowner’s attorney, Arbery family’s attorney respond to new video (took some real liberties)
WTOC ^ | 5.11.20 | Write Gazaway

Posted on 05/11/2020 5:44:19 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001

An attorney representing the homeowner of a construction site involved in the Ahmaud Arbery case issued a statement condemning the actions taken by Gregory and Travis McMichael.

A brief surveillance clip appears to show a man that looks like Arbery inside the home minutes before he was killed on Feb. 23. A neighbor called 911 and reported someone in the home that afternoon; the home was under construction and not locked.

Minutes later, responding officers found Arbery in the middle of the road, shot to death by Travis McMichael. Another video captured the shooting. The public release of that video last week sparked nationwide attention and calls for immediate arrests.

The McMichaels told responding officers that they chased Arbery because they thought he was responsible for recent break-ins in the neighborhood. However, the only theft reported to police involved a gun stolen from Travis McMichael’s unlocked truck, according to reports provided to WTOC by the Glynn County Police Department.

(Excerpt) Read more at wtoc.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: arbery; banglist; ga; georgia; notajogget; vigilantes
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This broad is a real piece of work. Note all of her go to media sources. She's stepping way out of bounds IMO
1 posted on 05/11/2020 5:44:19 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: spacejunkie2001

Mom said “he was working to be an electrician” - translation: he had no visible means of support.


2 posted on 05/11/2020 5:48:19 PM PDT by Kenny500c
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To: spacejunkie2001

Family’s lawyer Ben Crump he was involved with trayvon Martin case.


3 posted on 05/11/2020 5:52:05 PM PDT by DEPcom
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To: Kenny500c

I’m working to be a brain surgeon


4 posted on 05/11/2020 5:53:22 PM PDT by Josa
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To: spacejunkie2001
In the months prior to February 23, a motion-activated camera had captured videos of someone inside the house (which was and remains a construction site) at night...After the first time that video captured someone in the house, Mr. English contacted local law enforcement on a non-emergency number and made them aware of the unauthorized entry onto his property.... Nothing was ever stolen from the house...

Are we to believe that this guy set up a camera in a house under construction, saw that the house was being invaded at night repeatedly, and all he did was make one phone call to the police?

He didn't put up fencing?

Why bother putting in a security camera in the first place?

It just doesn't make sense.

5 posted on 05/11/2020 5:54:16 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: Kenny500c

And Michael Brown was “going to college” except that was a lie


6 posted on 05/11/2020 5:54:26 PM PDT by Josa
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To: BenLurkin

this guy’s attorney, who wrote this crap, sure is an apologist for bad behavior. Really wants to be the prosecutor too, it seems.


7 posted on 05/11/2020 5:56:24 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: spacejunkie2001
Wow, look at that! A camera inside the unfinished home under construction right where the "jogger" happened to stop and look. Amazing.

Wow, look that that! Also a video of the struggle itself and possible shooting, but we see nothing concerning what led up to the struggle. Amazing.

Wow. Look at that! This incident happened in February but the media chose to sensationalize it NOW, 3 months later!!!!! Amazing.

Who took the 'struggle' video, the Obama wing of the FBI? I smell a set-up for maximum DemonRat political gain with black voters and its DELAYED RELEASE BY THE MEDIA timed just as OBAMAGATE grows legs! Amazing!

Yeah, I know.. Too many Amazings.

8 posted on 05/11/2020 5:57:55 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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“Family’s lawyer Ben Crump he was involved with trayvon Martin case.”

FLASHBACK:

(Dead link) http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/03/24/142983/martin-familys-lawyers-no-strangers.html

Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2012

EXCERPTS

In Trayvon’s case, (Parks & Crump) alerted the news media more quickly. They phoned the Rev. Al Sharpton almost instantly, and organized marches with local civil rights activists. They also started pressing for federal involvement and alleging a cover-up from the get-go.

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“In court, you have the jury,” Crump says. “Our job is to get the case to a jury. We need to fight first in the court of public opinion. The jury is the American people.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/03/22/someone-must-be-punished-for-killing-trayvon-martin-says-mom-sybrina-fulton.html

Someone Must Be Punished for Killing Trayvon Martin, Says Mom Sybrina Fulton
by Allison Samuels Mar 22, 2012 2:04 AM EDT

EXCERPT

The now controversial killing of Trayvon garnered virtually no mainstream media attention in the days immediately after he was fatally shot, but that all changed when the teenager’s parents decided to hire civil rights attorney Benjamin Crump and his law firm to get more answers on exactly how and why their son died.

“They called me the same day they were notified that their son was dead,’’ Crump told The Daily Beast. “When I heard their unarmed teenage son was shot to death, I just knew there’d be an arrest shortly. There wasn’t an arrest 48 hours later, and then I knew we’d have to take this outside of Sanford if we wanted justice.’’

Trayvon’s parents were told by the Sanford police that Zimmerman wasn’t arrested in their son’s death because the facts of the case did not dispute his claim of self-defense.

For Crump, taking the Trayvon Martin story outside of Sanford simply entailed dialing up a few well-placed friends such as the Rev. Al Sharpton. Crump worked closely with the civil rights leader in 2006 on another racially charged case—the controversial death of a 14-year-old, African-American inmate of a Florida boot camp.

“I had to call people like Sharpton and a few other black civil rights leaders and the black media to tell them about this story,’’ said Crump. “I had to get them to understand what happened to this young man and what hadn’t happened in his case so they could spread the word.’’

Historically, cases of murder and violence against blacks in the United States rarely have been given the same amount of attention as cases in which the victims of crime are white—and often go unnoticed and unprosecuted.

Just days after hearing the details of Trayvon’s death, Sharpton arranged to have Crump and the teenager’s parents, Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin, on his syndicated radio show and his popular MSNBC show, Politics Nation, to tell their story.

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In the wake of non-stop media attention from the likes of Sharpton and CNN’s Don Lemon concerning the Trayvon Martin case, black media blogs such as MediaTakeOut.com and Huffington Post Black Voices also began publishing accounts and editorials about the Florida case—daily. Almost instantly, readers of all races, ages, and backgrounds began tweeting and posting on Facebook their outrage over how the police have handled the case, and the lack of an arrest in the shooting. To date, almost 1 million people have signed a Change.Org petition to have Zimmerman arrested. In response to the widespread outrage, the Justice Department has opened an investigation into the shooting.


9 posted on 05/11/2020 6:00:16 PM PDT by maggief
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To: BenLurkin

“He didn’t put up fencing?”

They cost lots of money, and temp fences are very easy to climb or pass through. All they really keep out is vehicles.


10 posted on 05/11/2020 6:07:00 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: BenLurkin

Maybe his camera never recorded anyone stealing anything. I’ve gone into numerous houses under construction just to look at the layout.

As far as the video of Arbery entering the house, I don’t see anything there. Perhaps that’s technically trespassing, I don’t know.

The most important thing on the videos is when Arbery charged at the guy with the shotgun.


11 posted on 05/11/2020 6:20:49 PM PDT by libertylover (Socialism will always look good to those who think they can get something for nothing.)
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You go onto other people's property without permission and nose around?
12 posted on 05/11/2020 6:25:37 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Leave it to me to be holdin' the matches when the fire truck shows up & there's nobody else to blame)
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It seems some think that’s perfectly appropriate, I call it criminal trespass.


13 posted on 05/11/2020 6:32:56 PM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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To: spacejunkie2001
IDK what this guy thought he was doing prowling around a construction site, but I do know that the potential for casual theft of construction materials is a common problem. Half the time off duty workers will come back and take a few items for themselves over the weekend. So a high index of suspicion is warranted.
14 posted on 05/11/2020 6:36:14 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard (Power is more often surrendered than seized)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Yes, during the early parts of construction. If I saw someone stealing something from my soon-to-be neighbors I’d call the cops.


15 posted on 05/11/2020 6:38:28 PM PDT by libertylover (Socialism will always look good to those who think they can get something for nothing.)
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To: spacejunkie2001

Allow me to translate: “My client wants to make sure that his newly constructed house does not get burned down by rioters.” If you read the statement of the homeowner, and not the statement of his lunatic lawyer, everything he says is true but said in politically correct terms. My personal favorite is where he said that he did not believe the individual that was captured on the video was the same person as the jogger. Quite frankly, since the jogger’s picture on TV shows him with a buzz cut and in a tuxedo, I wouldn’t have identified him either. However, it is obvious that the jogger is the guy he in all videos.


16 posted on 05/11/2020 6:40:23 PM PDT by bort
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To: libertylover

This guy told the Daily Beast that he had $2500 of fishing equipment stolen from his home under construction. He obviously is trying to appease the black community, which yesterday was marching in this neighborhood with the black panthers


17 posted on 05/11/2020 6:44:29 PM PDT by bort
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To: bort

Your sick, get help.


18 posted on 05/11/2020 7:02:44 PM PDT by cowboyusa (America Cowboy Up)
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I don’t see how saying he had $2500 worth of fishing equipment stolen from the house under construction appeases the black community. What am I missing?


19 posted on 05/11/2020 7:12:37 PM PDT by libertylover (Socialism will always look good to those who think they can get something for nothing.)
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As far as the video of Arbery entering the house, I don’t see anything there. Perhaps that’s technically trespassing, I don’t know.

The most important thing on the videos is when Arbery charged at the guy with the shotgun.

No, the two videos of the entry into the unfinished structure are important to determining if the McMichaels had lawful cause to pursue and arrest Arbery.

I should think the primary legal question to be answered is did the McMichaels, prior to giving chase, have reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion that Aubery, without authority, and with the intent to commit theft therein, enter or remain within a vacant building or structure? Arbery need not have committed the crime, but the McMichaels needed reasonable and probable suspicion that he did.

Phrased differently, did the McMichaels, prior to giving chase, have reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion that Aubery had committed the felony of second degree burglary under GA Code § 16-7-1(c)?

The elder McMichael was an investigator for about 30 years, working for the Brunswick Judicial Circuit District Attorney’s Office. Prior to that he was a police officer for about 7 years, working for the Glynn County police.

2018 Georgia Code
Title 17 - Criminal Procedure
Chapter 4 - Arrest of Persons
Article 4 - Arrest by Private Persons
§ 17-4-60. Grounds for arrest Universal Citation: GA Code § 17-4-60 (2018)

A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion.

Were there reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion of the felony of second degree burglary? Felony second degree burglary does not require a taking, but requires an intent to commit theft.

2018 Georgia Code
Title 16 - Crimes and Offenses
Chapter 7 - Damage to and Intrusion Upon Property
Article 1 - Burglary
§ 16-7-1. Burglary
Universal Citation: GA Code § 16-7-1 (2018)

(c) A person commits the offense of burglary in the second degree when, without authority and with the intent to commit a felony or theft therein, he or she enters or remains within an occupied, unoccupied, or vacant building, structure, railroad car, watercraft, or aircraft. A person who commits the offense of burglary in the second degree shall be guilty of a felony and, upon conviction thereof, shall be punished by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than five years. Upon the second and all subsequent convictions for burglary in the second degree, the defendant shall be guilty of a felony and shall be punished by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than eight years.

Were there reasonable and probable grounds to suspect second degree burglary, a felony?

20 posted on 05/11/2020 7:16:48 PM PDT by woodpusher
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