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Why UK's death toll could soon be the worst in Europe - in charts {to overtake Italy in days}
The Telegraph ^ | 29 April 2020 | Ashley Kirk

Posted on 04/30/2020 6:40:48 AM PDT by Cronos

The UK’s five-day average for coronavirus deaths is now the highest of any major European economy at this point in the pandemic’s curve, new analysis has revealed.

At this point in the pandemic, some 42 days since the tenth death, the five-day average for deaths in the UK stands at 598, according to the latest data from Johns Hopkins University. This is far higher than Italy (559), France (509) and Spain (423).

UK coronavirus deaths have been the highest among all major European countries for four days in a row, overtaking France at this stage of the pandemic.

The total number of deaths in the UK hit 26,097 on Wednesday after some - but not all - victims in care homes and the community were added to hospital fatalities for the first time.

The change in reporting methods has allowed a direct comparison to Italy - the original European epicentre of the deadly virus - because Downing Street said care home deaths were also included in Italy's nationwide death toll.

Britain's 26,097 tally sits just below Italy's 27,682. However the UK toll will eclipse that figure within days because fatalities in Italy are declining at a much greater daily rate than in Britain, which is roughly two weeks behind Italy in the course of the pandemic.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; covid; covid19; pandemic
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That was unexpected. UK freepers, stay safe


1 posted on 04/30/2020 6:40:48 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

Bad news.....if you believe the numbers. I am far from convinced they are not being padded.

A panicked population is much easier to control.


2 posted on 04/30/2020 6:45:29 AM PDT by billyboy15
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Country Total Cases total deaths deaths/million
USA 1,064,836 61,600 186
Italy 203,591 27,682 458
UK 165,221 26,097 384
Spain 239,639 24,543 525
France 166,420 24,087 369

latest numbers at start of day 30th April 2020


3 posted on 04/30/2020 6:46:37 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: billyboy15

every country is padding their numbers??!?


4 posted on 04/30/2020 6:46:55 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: billyboy15

“Man decapitated in horrific motorcycle accident dies of CV19. Details at 11.”


5 posted on 04/30/2020 6:48:57 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: Cronos

NIH running things.


6 posted on 04/30/2020 6:49:47 AM PDT by AU72
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To: billyboy15; Cronos
Actually, they are clinically correct but effectively wrong.

If you size- and time-adjust the fatality totals the U.K. is bad but not nearly as bad as Belgium, Spain and France. The U.K. Is also better than New York, NJ, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Michigan, Louisiana , Rhode Island, and D.C.

7 posted on 04/30/2020 6:51:37 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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every country is padding their numbers??!?


Depends on the circumstances. When hopitals are paid more for CV19 deaths, you can assume the numbers are padded. The question is, “how much”.

And if there are over-zealous doctors that treat all CV19 positive testing corpses as “died from CV19” the numbers will be padded.

Also, when it comes to countries, I see each state in the US and EU as a separate country. NY is in a bad way. CA, not so much.


8 posted on 04/30/2020 6:52:18 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: billyboy15
Skip the Covid-19 numbers, just look at total mortality for the same weeks compared to an average of the past five years' total deaths. What accounts for the difference? Tsunamis the media missed?


9 posted on 04/30/2020 6:52:51 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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We should all be praising God that Heart Disease and Cancer have been miraculously eradicated because of Coronavirus!!! /s


10 posted on 04/30/2020 6:53:55 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: cuban leaf

See #9. Explain the excess deaths from all causes, week by week, year over year compared to the averages.

https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1255533872042967040


11 posted on 04/30/2020 6:54:05 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: billyboy15

I’ve compared numbers from different websites and they are different!

I don’t trust them.


12 posted on 04/30/2020 6:54:24 AM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: Jan_Sobieski

See 9 and 11. Same question.


13 posted on 04/30/2020 6:54:34 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Cronos

Somehow, Islamic hand-washing protocols never get referenced.


14 posted on 04/30/2020 6:56:11 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Travis McGee

We are in the midst of the worst (regular) flu season in 4 decades. But we are hearing and seeing nothing about the deaths caused by this years flu. Instead every single death is classified as a Chinese Virus death.

Lot of bullsh*t being tossed around.


15 posted on 04/30/2020 7:08:17 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: Cronos

I wonder how many are “Asians”

aka Pakistani


16 posted on 04/30/2020 7:18:21 AM PDT by Pollard (shadowbanned)
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“every country is padding their numbers??!?”

By padded I don’t mean totally made up. Rather I am referring to the practice of citing the China Virus as the cause of death without definitive proof.

There are reasons in this country. The gov’t is paying Hospitals extra for treating CV patients.

It’s standard for Medicare to pay a hospital roughly three times as much for a patient who goes on a ventilator, as for one who doesn’t.

Medicare is paying a 20% add-on to its regular hospital payments for the treatment of COVID-19 victims. That’s a result of a federal stimulus law.

Other Nations use differing criteria to place the cause of death on CV. There is no sense to how the numbers are being compiled.

Finally the easiest way to control a population is to keep them in a state of panic. I find it strange that after seeing a steady decline in reported deaths and new cases they are suddenly on the rise again after it has become obvious the folks are getting fed up with the lock down and are beginning to ignore it in ever increasing numbers.


17 posted on 04/30/2020 7:21:11 AM PDT by billyboy15
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Of course the numbers are being padded. We’ve read article after article after article confirming it, from people who are actually there. It’s enough to piss off a saint. However, it’s also encouraging because previously, all news that ran contrary to the “official line” was quashed, but now, more and more people are speaking out.

You’re right about panicked populations being easier to control. What the “controllers” fail to realize is that when people lose all hope, they become desperate. And desperate people are apt to react violently, as they no longer have anything left to lose.


18 posted on 04/30/2020 7:30:08 AM PDT by AFB-XYZ
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To: AFB-XYZ

“And desperate people are apt to react violently, as they no longer have anything left to lose.”

Spot on!! I would really LOVE to see a true insurrection in this country, one which would have the miserable pompous, entitled and self aggrandizing POS cowering under their desks in fearn of their TRUE masters, the people.


19 posted on 04/30/2020 7:38:01 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: Travis McGee

Twitteer is blocked for me.

I have heard that the number of people dying per week, from any and all causes, is down.


20 posted on 04/30/2020 7:40:54 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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