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VIDEO: US Coast Guard Says It’s Keeping An Rye On 27 Oil Tankers Anchored Off The Coast Of Southern California
Twitter ^ | 04/24/20

Posted on 04/27/2020 4:07:36 AM PDT by Enlightened1

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To: Enlightened1

Ham & Swiss please


41 posted on 04/27/2020 6:13:25 AM PDT by Pollard (shadowbanned)
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To: Enlightened1

Back during the oil shortages in the 1970s we heard that tankers were steaming in circles, waiting for the price to go up before they docked to offload.


42 posted on 04/27/2020 6:32:01 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Enlightened1

I like my pastrami on rye!


43 posted on 04/27/2020 6:57:39 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Boycott The NFL! Molon Labe! Oathkeeper)
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To: Ciaphas Cain

COOL! I havent seen that in 20+ years!! Tried playing that with my kids on an underpowered PC and got stuck there - that question repeated over and over. The kids still say it sometimes and it cracks me up.


44 posted on 04/27/2020 6:59:33 AM PDT by corkoman
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To: Enlightened1

I will believe them because they are intellectually superior to one who is a self enlightened backrow member of the peanut gallery, a monday morning water boy.


45 posted on 04/27/2020 7:04:18 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: rktman
Hmmmm. As the video shows and the first still pic show, several of these ships are riding pretty high in the water indicating they are either empty or nearly so. But, yes, there appear to be numerous tankers anchored off the coast.

And I still have yet to see a good reason as to why there would be empty tankers parked off our coast? I can understand full ones waiting to offload since there's no where else to go, but why empties?
46 posted on 04/27/2020 7:24:17 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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Why the empties? Because they’ve no charters, and nowhere to go. Probably the only charters they can get now are for contango, but even that trade has been thrown into tumult.


47 posted on 04/27/2020 7:55:01 AM PDT by punchamullah
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To: Enlightened1

Ham and Cheese on Rye?


48 posted on 04/27/2020 8:14:11 AM PDT by Retired Chemist
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To: Svartalfiar

Possibly transporting refined product to overseas locations?


49 posted on 04/27/2020 8:22:46 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Abbeville Conservative
The whiskey or bread variety of rye?

Depends if one of the tankers is the Exxon Valdez.

50 posted on 04/27/2020 8:30:20 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: wastoute

Not sure I understand what you are trying to say. The tankers are there because the producers have run out of storage capacity on shore. Why would they dump the oil when they will be able to charge us more for it when things come back to normal?


51 posted on 04/27/2020 9:45:28 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Mastador1

At a “negative price” they are losing money keeping it on the ship.


52 posted on 04/27/2020 9:52:35 AM PDT by wastoute (Anyone who believes PsyOps are not involved has never met a PsyOps Officer.)
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To: Mastador1

Or, “it’s better to be first in line when oil that is worth money begins to flow again than last in line trying to get rid of oil you’ve been sitting on for a month.”


53 posted on 04/27/2020 9:54:07 AM PDT by wastoute (Anyone who believes PsyOps are not involved has never met a PsyOps Officer.)
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To: punchamullah
Why the empties? Because they’ve no charters, and nowhere to go. Probably the only charters they can get now are for contango, but even that trade has been thrown into tumult.

Where is their home port? Why not sit empty there? Why would they sit off the CA coast?

I'm sure there are plenty of crude producers that would love to fill up a tanker ship. If nothing more than to keep room to operate their wells instead of having to cap them.
54 posted on 04/27/2020 10:37:07 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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Possibly transporting refined product to overseas locations?

Then why aren't they sitting off the overseas place, full of diesel or gasoline? Every refinery here is ceasing crude input because their local storage is completely full of finished product. I'd think they would love to empty out some of what they've got stored up. I don't see why empties would be sitting here, waiting to be filled?

Also, why CA? Just LA has about twice the refining capacity of CA, and TX dwarfs that. I haven't heard any stories about tankers filling up the Gulf. They'd be much more likely to squeeze in in an area with much more product capacity.
55 posted on 04/27/2020 10:46:06 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: Larry Lucido
I'm sure Mr Dalrymple and Greenpeace are on the job!


56 posted on 04/27/2020 11:52:25 AM PDT by Gamecock (We love works righteousness because it satisfies our desire to judge others. (R.K).)
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To: Svartalfiar

I do not know where their ‘home ports’ are. Not many ships have a home port any more. They might be flagged in Panama or Majuro, but never have and possibly never will see those ports. I did notice that one of the ships in the video was a CHEVRON tanker. It is likely that she was engaged in the Alaska-SoCal trade. If there are no liftings scheduled at Valdez, it is more convenient to stand by off LA, where it is easier for the Owner to carry out scheduled maintenance, which they might elect to do sooner whilst the slump lasts, and do crew changes and training. Anyway, it is no loss for LA, as those ships are giving custom to the local chandlers, and likely paying port and light dues while anchored there.

The practice of pre-positioning these bottoms in anticipation of a resumption of liftings, is no longer popular, as there are now so many places where the crude can be lifted. It is better to stand by until they can write a firm charter.

No doubt there are many producers who would love to have these bottoms, but many of them may already be on time charter. The contango trade has pushed the charter rates sky high, and the opportunity to profit from contango is diminishing with the rise in dayrates. In Asia, most of the VLCCs are already in contango trade, as are many of the product tankers. I live in Jakarta, and the government here has chartered many product tankers to hold gasoline and gasoil, which they import from Singapore, so that they can move up scheduled refinery shutdowns for maintenance.

Most of the crude tankers cannot be used to store these products, as they use different pumps and the crude carriers lack the required safety features for the more volatile refined products.

Some of the major tanker operators got in early on the contango trade, and are now profiting nicely, securing 5 or 6 times their pre-crisis dayrates. Others did not happen to be in the right places, and have to weigh the costs of sailing in ballast to participate in the trade, or wait for events to return to somewhat normal.


57 posted on 04/27/2020 7:07:33 PM PDT by punchamullah
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