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VA Chief: Actually Hydroxychloroquine Has Been Working Against COVID-19; Stopped Disease Progression on Middle-age and Younger veterans
Epoch Times ^ | 04/22/2020 | Zachary Steiber

Posted on 04/22/2020 11:41:11 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine has been working in COVID-19 patients, Secretary of Veterans Affairs Robert Wilkie said on Wednesday.

Wilkie’s comments come after a study looking at the effects of the drug in 368 patients in Veterans Health Administration hospitals found no evidence the drug is effective against COVID-19, a new disease caused by the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus.

Responding to the results during an appearance on MSNBC, Wilkie said, “That’s just an observational study. It’s not a clinical study. It was done on a small number of veterans; sadly, those of whom were in the last stages of life, and the drug was given to them.”

The drug “has been working on middle-age and younger veterans,” Wilkie added. By that, he meant that it was “stopping the progression of” COVID-19.

The study in question can help inform doctors who are caring for veterans who have the CCP virus, Wilkie said.

Doctors across the nation have been prescribing hydroxychloroquine but there are a number of concerns about its effectiveness and, if it proves effective, medical workers want to pinpoint the correct dosage information and other matters regarding how and when to prescribe it.

Clinical trials of hydroxychloroquine are underway in Minnesota, Tennessee, and New York. Andrew Cuomo, the governor of the Empire State, asked for more doses of the drug to be delivered to New York City while in the Oval Office meeting with President Donald Trump, according to Wilkie.

Also this week, doctors and experts on a panel created by the National Institutes of Health said they were recommending against using hydroxychloroquine in combination with azithromycin, an antibiotic also known as Z-Pak.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: chinavirustreatment; corona; covid; covid19; hcq; hcqtreatment; hydroxychloroquine; va; vastudy
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To: BluegrassCardinal

Just look up Dr David Brownstein and his blog on coronavirus. He proposes a simple protocol for treatment at home. If it gets in one’s lungs, need to follow a nebulizer protocol as well. Everyone should have a bottle of each item he proposes. Likely costs less than $200 for everything


81 posted on 04/22/2020 2:06:08 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: SeekAndFind

HCQ+ is not as mellifluous as “Russia, Russia, Russia!” but it formed in the same fetid swamp.
If Pres. Trump had been skeptical of it, the stuff would be mandatory by now.


82 posted on 04/22/2020 2:12:40 PM PDT by Buttons12 (Bad flu got you down? Take Anecdotal for fast relief!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“ Wilkie’s comments come after a study looking at the effects of the drug in 368 patients in Veterans Health Administration hospitals found no evidence the drug is effective against COVID-19, ”

This is a demonstrably false argument. The study found no such thing.


83 posted on 04/22/2020 2:26:22 PM PDT by ARW
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To: Mr. Blond
Gilead Sciences is working with GlaxoSmithKline (Bill Gates company)

Antiviral drugmakers GSK, Gilead join fight against coronavirus' spread
https://www.biopharmadive.com/news/gilead-gsk-coronavirus-antiviral-clinical-trial/571583/

84 posted on 04/22/2020 2:36:32 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: SeekAndFind

Flooding the news today is the “failed hydroxychloroquine trial,” and it’s all a scam. Just wow. The VA trial was a faulty trial that was designed to fail (presumably so Trump haters could cheer). The trail didn’t include zinc in the protocol. Every reputable doctor such as New York Dr. Zelenko combines hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, and zinc. Without zinc it does nothing. Hydroxychloroquine facilitates the transport of zinc into the cell. Zinc inhibits the transcription of the RNA in the virus. Only an idiot would do a trial on hydroxychloroquine without zinc (unless they wanted the trial to fail). The link to the trial is attached. It’s a 27 page PDF and not one mention of the word zinc. Download the PDF and read it yourself. Just wow. We’re being scammed.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.16.20065920v1?fbclid=IwAR0NdpMjMcICa9RkI3cdUD6lbQxbQYBL8ReEJUuYvErqF4ozXBTyfq6GUdM


85 posted on 04/22/2020 2:48:29 PM PDT by Captain Steve
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86 posted on 04/22/2020 2:56:56 PM PDT by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: SeekAndFind

Get me to Dr. Zev!!


87 posted on 04/22/2020 3:12:49 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Reasonable inference from the evidence.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Like many effective pharma, this one has side effects in some people. Among those people, some side effects are minor, for some are major and not recommended

The critics have effectively conceded that it is effective. Their argument rests on the fact that side effects are major and not recommended for everyone for that reason, which virtually everyone agrees with.

The phrasing of the critics obfuscates the issue, probably on purpose.


88 posted on 04/22/2020 3:25:07 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: SeekAndFind

Please Dr. Wilkie. Don’t confuse the anti-Trump/Marxist media with facts and the Truth. They can’t handle it


89 posted on 04/22/2020 4:40:11 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: SeekAndFind

America’s enemies, foreign and domestic, cannot let this crises end before America is permanently crippled. Hurt us bad enough, socialism may win.


90 posted on 04/22/2020 6:29:39 PM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Unredact the 99 Collyer Report!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Correcting the #FakeNews with primary sources. Never believe what the #FakeNews tells you.
Always wait for the debunking.


91 posted on 04/22/2020 6:34:56 PM PDT by TigersEye (MAGA - 16 more years! - KAG)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I wonder if there is another antibiotic that would be better to use in combination?

Doxycycline.

Long Island doctor tries new twist on hydroxychloroquine for elderly COVID-19 patients

92 posted on 04/22/2020 7:00:11 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Cathi

[[To Date: 3039 patients treated....12 deaths]]

That’s amazing- NY by comparison has what now? About 20,000 deaths from coronavirus?

Dr. Raoult’s testign shows a .4% death rate- the death rate in NY is 7.3% death rate- totally unacceptable-


93 posted on 04/22/2020 9:07:01 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: SeekAndFind

Don’t you need zinc and Z pacs for max effect? HCQ drives the Zinc into the cells in question and blocks RNA replication for this virus. Zpac prevents opportunistic infections from taking advantage.


94 posted on 04/23/2020 6:43:53 AM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: SecAmndmt

You can mail the combo to anyone. If someone has known cardio issues they can get the Redivismir by RX from their doctor.

HCQ/Zinc/Zpac is primary and Redivismir is the backup for those with contradictions to the combo.


95 posted on 04/23/2020 6:50:07 AM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: G Larry

“The issue for the Deep State and the HCQ protocol is that NOBODY GETS RICH OFF A GENERIC DRUG!!!!”
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The bigger issue is that if we have an effective treatment for this virus, the crisis is over and America goes back to work, which makes a Trump victory almost certain. The Deep State cannot allow that, even at the cost of tens of thousands of lives and a worldwide depression.


96 posted on 04/23/2020 8:44:53 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: willk

“I think it is obvious that the drug has some benefits if started early in the course of the disease. Not when someone is on intubation.”
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Giving HCQ to someone at that stage is the equivalent of starting someone on an antibiotic when they have gangrene halfway up their leg.

These studies are DESIGNED to fail, and SCREW those patients and everyone else with the disease, because the great objective is to defeat Trump in November. If there is also a worldwide depression, so be it. We are dealing with a massive number of truly evil people who want power at literally any price; think about what they will do if they obtain that power if they’re willing to murder tens of thousands of sick people and crash the economy.


97 posted on 04/23/2020 8:53:06 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: BluegrassCardinal

Don’t even, DEMAND! Also, make sure that zinc is included.


98 posted on 04/23/2020 8:58:41 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Bob434

“the antibiotic is just incase some infections crop up during the battle- it doesn’t really do anything other than combat anything that crops up while a person is being treated- like pneumonia or bronchial infection”
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Not true - azithromycin also has some antiviral effects.


99 posted on 04/23/2020 9:04:20 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Uncle Miltie; Jim Robinson

”Like Hydroxychloroquine, Quercetin is a zinc ionophore, for those willing to do their homework. Ionophores open the cell door for zinc, and the zinc mucks up the virus producing machinery when it gets inside.

Available to mail order from normal supplement stores.“
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You need to take a lot of Quercetin to match the effect of hydroxychloroquine but, yes, it accomplishes the same goal. I and my family are taking Quercetin with zinc every day. Vitamin C also stops the cytokine storm, and we are also taking large doses of that every day.

As you said, the research is out there - ALL of it linked to by FReepers over the last 2 months.

Also, I am not a doctor, and am making no warrantable recommendations. Do your own research.


100 posted on 04/23/2020 9:15:09 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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