Posted on 04/19/2020 5:15:28 AM PDT by blam
Researchers and clinicians who have ‘experimented’ with random mass testing for COVID-19 have made some pretty amazing – and amazingly depressing – discoveries. Yesterday, we shared a report about one sweeping antibody testing regime set up by researchers in Santa Clara County in California.
The study found that the estimated level of novel coronavirus penetration in the county was “50-80% higher” than what had been recorded.
If that isn’t enough to terrify every day trader who ratcheted up their exposure heading into the weekend, a news story about another surprising discovery – this time on the East Coast – has just come to our attention.
After a cluster of cases involving residents of a South Boston homeless shelter, Massachusetts public health officials tested every resident of the Pine Street shelter in Boston’s South End.
The results have garnered the attention of the CDC, which is “actively investigating the situation,” according to Boston 25 News.
The CDC is now “actively looking into” into universal COVID-19 testing at Pine Street Inn homeless shelter.
The broad-scale testing took place at the shelter in Boston’s South End a week and a half ago because of a small cluster of cases there.
Of the 397 people tested, 146 people tested positive. Not a single one had any symptoms.
“It was like a double knockout punch. The number of positives was shocking, but the fact that 100 percent of the positives had no symptoms was equally shocking,” said Dr. Jim O’Connell, president of Boston Health Care for the Homeless Program, which provides medical care at the city’s shelters.
O’Connell said that the findings have changed the future of COVID-19 screenings at Boston’s homeless shelters.
The big takeaway, if you couldn’t tell, is that a pattern is developing here:
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(Excerpt) Read more at nationandstate.com ...
The test is flawed. Tests for endosomes, which could be elavatedfor various reasons, even undue Stress. That’s why ALL the numbers are exagerated.
Hard to interpret, really. The population of a homeless shelter would seem to be pretty hard to define as people come and go in such high proportions. Not a “captive audience” like a nursing home. Plus it would be almost impossible to know who or when just a few of them “fell of the radar” and got a more serious illness. Plus this homeless shelter IS in Boston, IIRC. It would be far more interesting to do the same study in Des Moines.
I have no boats or summer houses and have done internal medicine for years. I don’t need your approval or tears. I’m good. Thanks though b
Maybe there’s an overlap of “something” in the test...a piece related to something in their system. Did they do a full med analysis, i.e., ask about meds or drugs the people are taking which might effect the test. That seems way too many to me.
They’re obviously hooked on the right drugs........
Proof exposure is not a terrible idea.
Any news source beyond this regarding homeless and corona virus? I expected (based on early ‘models’ and fear mongering) the homeless here on the west coast to be ravaged by the virus in a completely uncontrollable manner and substantial deaths. Not seeing any thing of this nature or extent.
That’s not “shocking”, it is wonderful!
Herd immunity is working. COVID-19 is NOT killing everyone it touches.
Agreed. It’s hard to know if any of this goop is statistically meaningful. There’s a lot of noise, and half of the people conducting these “studies” are below average (assuming gaussian distribution).
My comment was sort of tongue in cheek.
There are many studies that should be conducted if our goal is truly to learn so we can deal with it instead of promoting an agenda (a la climate change).
My personal opinion was we could have done just fine dealing with this in the same way as has been done every epidemic before “tests”. If you go back I remarked at the time that “testing” didn’t make a lot of sense, it just introduced confusion and chaos unnecessarily but somebody decided to offer tests to everybody and it was a political football after that. Now notice “testing” has been handed of laterally to the Governors which was a very wise move. Let them deal with demands form the media.
So why is this depressing news? I would think it is great news for ending these stay at home orders.
We will never know how many people are infected, just like we will never know about all the people who are infected with any other kind of "flu." Some people never present symptoms, or simply suffer through them.
The best we can do is valid statistical analysis, and we don't have enough data on COVIS-19 to do that yet.
All we have now is a collection of "fun facts," some of which may lead to truth. But it's impossible to know.
So decisions are a shot in the dark. And on top of that we have reporters who are too stupid to understand any of the science (or else they wouldn't be reporters).
Believe me, I know. Also, at total cost per pound, Venison is the most expensive meat you’ll ever eat.
You could certainly be right about this round.
Of course, with that approach, the problem would present itself in the form of a virus that wiped out 75% of the population.
Is it best to err on the side of safety? Sure. Do we need nanny government to create rules to dictate citizen’s behavior?
That’s where I have a problem.
Another thing to consider is that the vast majority
of homeless are either alcoholic or drug addicts.
They already have compromised immune systems.
Marko
The Kung Flu in one study was indicated to perhaps be a bacteriophage, a virus that infects bacteria. It was noted that in almost all fatalities studied two unusual strains of gut bacteria were present. Both strains are not dominant in a healthy gut biome. Eat more dirt may actually be the answer.
Or to be more accurate eat less sugar and more natural sour kraut, kimchee and yogurt as acidophilus kills off the dangerous strains of gut bacteria that were indicated in the study. The obese and diabetics tend to eat diets that favor the strains of potentially dangerous bacteria that COVID turns toxic.
Other people have posted this claim. The articles i've seen on this said they were tested a "week" ago. This thing takes 14 days to start showing symptoms for most people, and sometimes as long as 27 days to start showing symptoms.
This is another one of those examples where people want to run to a conclusion that isn't really supported by their "evidence."
Get back to us in another week or so, and let us know if these same people are still not showing symptoms.
Only then will the point you are trying to make be worth considering.
The dominant symptom of this disease is fever. If you didn't have a fever, you probably didn't have this thing.
Unless you have it and are symptoms free and I read that is common.
The scientific pretense, and it is pretense, is that all those that test positive, always wind up infecting someone else and never defeat the disease with their own immune system, before any major symptoms arise.
Yet millions do get a seasonal flu infection every year, and pass it off with just some sniffles.
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