Posted on 04/15/2020 11:33:33 AM PDT by Kaslin
And how many deaths where Coronavirus may have been contributory but not the actual cause of death...like liver disease, heart attack etc etc..
Where are you getting the idea that someone dying at home is going to get NYC a dime in any kind of aid?
Seriously, on what basis are they handing out “death money?”
Treatment money, yes. You need a test result for that.
Gramma dying in her chair? That’s not even going to get you a new chair.
Thanks....will try to catch it.
You think there might be 3,700 of those, on top of the other six or so thousand recent deaths in New York?
Those comorbidites are well known. Most will die from pneumonia exacerbated by the covid-19 toll on the body.
Agreed I had research and ethics in grad school. Scientific method etc.
worked in corrections where even out directors didn’t understand research ethics and our pro researched kept him out of trouble many times.
I agree.
And these are not even doctors. A death a home is not certified by a doctor (or at least most of them are not.).
In NYC a paramedic calls it, and calls the ME. Then the funeral home. No docs involved. No medicare claim, no “coding.”
I worked with doctors who were among the most honest people I’ve ever seen. They would self report stuff that no one would have ever caught (wrong meds, mistaken codes, etc.)
And I saw my hospital self report errors in coding that resulted in a million dollars fine from Medicare. The auditors told us they probably never would have caught it.
Screwing around with Medicare will Billing will get you huge fines and they will stop paying medicare bills in your hospital. I’ve seen them do it nursing homes. In today’s world—you get shut off from that spigot, you are closed.
thank you commissar
The numbers are rigged by the number they tested since they tested ONLY sick folks.
“maybe they’re playing the game? - I’ve seen it posted that classifying anyone with a cough or fever as covid19 gets an automatic $13,000 100% pay no deduct for hospitals & $33k if they’re put on the ventilator”
I’ve heard that verbally from someone who I guess read the same. Would be nice to get confirmation for the doomers.
First the CDC instructed doctors to list as dying from Covid-19, anyone who died with any symptoms of the C-virus wether tested or suspected, I wonder if that was the case with H1N1 in 2009 or any other previous epidemic.
Probably somewhere less than 2,500,000 Right now we are at 88% of expected mortality due to the shutdown and increased health awareness. The mortality from Wuhan Red Death is mainly being pulled from people who would have died later this year and won't affect the annual numbers much. OTOH the drop from the shutdown is real.
Is she the Ali Watkins of data science? I do not believe anything written in the NYT unless it is accidentally correct, usually on page 18.
YEAH; the guy got hit dead center by a garbage truck, splattered him like a bug on the windshield, but I saw him cough before he stepped off the curb.
Definitely Corona Virus!
The problem is that if all the at home deaths were from Coronavirus, then surely everyone caring for that person has it.
Guess.
I see a lot of people promoting this idea, but many do so in the manner of a man grasping for a straw. What I observe is that many people desperately want America to return to it's normal business, and I suspect that many of these people have been badly hurt economically by this shutdown.
I think many of them are willing to believe anything that they think will have the effect of convincing others to lend their voices in support of ending this shutdown. From their perspective, it's not so important whether they believe it, as it is for others to be convinced that the shutdown needs to end.
I think that's what is driving this. People don't want to look at the problem objectively, because they have a preferred answer, and they want everyone else to arrive at their preferred answer.
To others of us who can sit back more calmly, their conspiracy antics look ridiculous.
And I think this methodology will be "close enough", in the vast majority of cases.
I wonder if that was the case with H1N1 in 2009 or any other previous epidemic.
Probably not, because it didn't cause nearly the damage this thing is causing.
This thing is in a different class than the last several outbreaks of other diseases.
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