Posted on 04/15/2020 11:33:33 AM PDT by Kaslin
"It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes." It may have been Stalin and it may have been Napoleon. It may have been Boss Tweed. Regardless of the original source, this truism describes government corruption and manipulation to perfection.
Even in the face of a global pandemic and an unprecedented government-ordered economic shutdown, politicians are using their power to corrupt vital needed data regarding the Chinese coronavirus and its deadly toll on Americans.
The latest escapade comes from America's "ground zero" for COVID-19 infections, New York, where the death tally just surpassed 10,000. Or did it?
The New York Post explains how previously unreported deaths are now, suddenly being included in the city's death count, and the reasons deserve scrutiny:
More than 10,000 people have died of coronavirus in New York City, including over 3,700 cases where someone never made it to a hospital, the city’s Health Department announced Tuesday.The Big Apple’s new death toll is 10,367. That figure combines the 6,589 victims who tested positive for the virus plus another 3,778 who were never tested, but whose death certificates list the cause of death as “COVID-19 or an equivalent,” according to city Health Department data from March 11 through April 13.The Post goes on to explain that the victims of probable coronavirus seem to center mostly on individuals 75 years or older, according to the NYC Health Department.
The newly revised death count of 10,367 could very well be accurate. And, of course, it could be wrong. The previous number of 6,589 was the official number right up until the moment it wasn't because government officials decided to widen their definition of a coronavirus death.
The problem - and this is a pretty big problem - is that we are making extraordinary and unprecedented decisions that infringe on our dearly held individual liberties and are stifling our once-burgeoning economy. We Americans are grudgingly willing to make these painful concessions on a temporary basis in the spirit of protecting our fellow citizens from infection or death. But when we acquiesce to these demands on our freedom, don't we deserve sound and reliable data to justify the concessions?
Instead of solid, reliable data, our leaders have constantly moved the goalposts and even the rules of the game. The models shift, the predictions are memory-holed and now even something as seemingly solid as an accurate tally of how many people have died as a result of this virus is being fudged. And it's being fudged in the middle of the game.
It's hard for a cynic (and these days Americans who are relying on critical information from our government and from the news media should be radically cynical) to assume this shift in data is being made not for scientific or public policy purposes, but to satisfy a political agenda.
In the Trump era, hard data is tough to come by when it pertains to information that could hurt Donald Trump's presidency and legacy. There is no doubt that a liberal protocol for counting a COVID-19 death will serve to increase the total number and will be used as a political weapon against President Trump. That's just a fact.
Two and a half years after Hurricane Maria swept through Puerto Rico, we still don't have an accurate death toll because the methodology for determining those numbers was radically modified for the first time in history. And it was modified just as President Trump was touting the relatively low initial death toll as compared with other, comparable storms in American history.
The Puerto Rico death toll immediately became a political cudgel and the media used the new weapon forged with unprecedented death count protocols to hammer the president. Ironically, if many Puerto Ricans died as a result of government negligence post-Hurricane Maria, it appears to have been the fault of the local Puerto Rican officials and not the Trump Administration.
This January, it was discovered that political corruption in Puerto Rico withheld federal aid from people suffering from the hurricane in the weeks after the storm hit the tiny island. But the same media who were making the case that the inflated hurricane death toll was grounds for Trump's impeachment mostly ignored the story. They were too busy covering their latest reason for impeaching the president to be bothered with it.
Direct tallies of individuals who are conclusively found to have perished due to the coronavirus should be executed in a consistent and logical way. If the deceased individual tests positive for the virus and their death came about due to symptoms commonly associated with COVID-19, then they should count. If a person dies in their home and they are over the age of 75, and there is no indication they were exposed to the virus, they should not count. Sadly, in New York, they now do count.
How many people have died as a direct result of the Chinese coronavirus? Sadly, that depends on who's doing the counting.
because the bounty on dead people just went up.
<><>De Blasio and NYC Officials continually downplayed COVID-19 Threat as the death rate skyrocketed.
<><> After Trump Restricted Travel to China, de Blasio and his top health official were actually telling NY'ers take the subway and attend parades months after President Donald Trump restricted travel to coronavirus-plagued China.
<><> “Here’s reality: This is a war-like situation,” de Blasio said in a March 14 interview with MSNBC’s Joy Reid. “We’re in a wartime scenario with a Mar-a-Lago attitude being used by the federal government,” he added, referencing Trump’s resort in Florida. Barbot was referring to a New York Chinatown parade, which celebrates China’s New Year and took place on Feb. 9. Barbot appeared to suggest Trump’s travel restrictions were racist in a Feb. 2 tweet to her followers.
<><> DeBLASIO SUCKED UP BIGTIME. “I want to be clear, this is about a virus, not a group of people. There is NO excuse for anyone to discriminate or stigmatize people of Asian heritage. We are here today to urge all New Yorkers to continue to live their lives as usual,” she said. As we gear up to celebrate the #LunarNewYear in NYC, I want to assure New Yorkers that there is no reason for anyone to change their holiday plans, avoid the subway, or certain parts of the city because of #coronavirus.
<><> The Mayor's sophmoric Health Commissioner, a latina doctor, argued in a local TV interview on Feb. 7 that the city is “telling New Yorkers, go about your lives, take the subway, go out, enjoy life.” She did say that citizens must practice good hygiene, but suggested the biggest threat comes from family members and not large packs of people. “And so we know that this virus can be transmitted from one individual to another, but that it’s typically people who live together,” she
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<><> Tempus fugit, and by March 5 de Blasio seemed to acknowledge the virus had spread beyond control.
<><> “You have to assume it could be anywhere in the city,” he said.
<><> Always careful to preserve his political bona fides, the Mayor did not want to cause undue alarm,
<><> Rev de Blasio then told NY'ers to go on with their normal lives, which left many confused about the danger they faced.
<><> De Blobbio's hand-plucked DODOBIRD health commissioner, sought to reassure NY'ers, especially commuters:
<><> “this is not something you’re going to contract in the subway or on the bus, the moron H/C actually said.”
<><> The mayor sucked-up bigtime, and reiterated her lunacy point several times in early March.
The average weekly deaths in NYC from ALL CAUSES is about 1,050. It doesn’t matter if 5,000 died last week or 10,000 died last week, it’s obviously not normal, and obviously the result of something that has changed. It’s obviously the virus that is killing them, and if it isn’t please tell me your theory about what killed 10,000 people when normally only 1,050 die in a week. Seriously, I’m listening. Actually I’m not.
The more morons who post on this site, the more morons I will call out.
NYC had 2,220 deaths from Influenza and Pneumonia in 2014
https://data.cityofnewyork.us/Health/New-York-City-Leading-Causes-of-Death/jb7j-dtam
Another rough estimate for number of deaths in NYC every year,
from Quora - 1 death every 9 minutes, 158 per day, 57,000 per year
https://www.quora.com/How-many-people-die-in-New-York-every-day
Like having a unknown life threatening condition but afraid to go to the doctor because it might be non-essential.
Mark D. Levine, Chair of the New York City Council's health committee, lauded how
“huge crowds gathering in NYC’s Chinatown” was a “powerful show of defiance of #coronavirus scare....
On Feb. 2, with the city’s first suspected coronavirus case under investigation and China’s death toll skyrocketing, NYC’s first latina Health Commissioner Oxiris Barbot touted upcoming crowded NYC Chinese New Year events. “As we gear up to celebrate the #LunarNewYear in NYC, I want to assure New Yorkers that there is no reason for anyone to change their holiday plans, avoid the subway, or certain parts of the city because of #coronavirus,” she tweeted.
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December 19, 2018---Mayor de Blasio And His Wife Announce First Latina Health Commissioner
NEW YORK—Mayor Bill de Blasio announced that the Latina Health Commissioner will double down on the agency’s commitment to achieving health equity. Dr. Barbot understands that improving the health of our city starts with keeping health equity at the center of our work,” said Mayor Bill de Blasio. “
First Lady Chirlane McCray: “Dr. Barbot has dedicated her life to eliminating disparities and injustices in health care,” said “I am proud to welcome a public servant so deeply committed to ensuring that the WHOLE patient is treated—mind and body. New York City is fortunate to have such an exceptional new Health Commissioner.”
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ANNOUNCING THE "COVID-19 IGNORANCE PRIZE" FOR INCOMPREHENSIBLE SOCIAL JUSTICE BAFFLEGAB:
DeBlasio and his wife's hand-picked first Latina Commissioner of Health
<><> boasted "she uses a racial equity lens" to administer health.
<><> setup a "Center for Health Equity"
<><> said she's "operationalizing the Health De partment’s commitment to racial justice"
<><> is focusing on "medicalizing social justice."
Liars figure and figures lie.
| date | cases | deaths |
|---|---|---|
| 2020-04-09 | 159937 | 7067 |
| 2020-04-10 | 170512 | 7844 |
| 2020-04-11 | 180458 | 8627 |
| 2020-04-12 | 188694 | 9385 |
| 2020-04-13 | 195031 | 10056 |
| 2020-04-14 | 202208 | 10834 |
Looks like the progression I have been seeing...
The DemonRats will be the death of us. No pun intended; or pun intended.
In the end the only way to measure the true death toll will be to compare the actual overall deaths to the expected number of deaths.
In the US about 85 people per 10,000 die each year.
In Italy the rate is 103 per 10,000 because they have an older population.
Without the Wuhan flu we would have had 2,750,000 people die in the US this year. What will the actual number be... maybe 2,850,000???
If they are backdating, instead of a one-day spike with all new-old cases on one day, wouldn’t;’t they adjust the back dates based on the dates of the “new deaths.”
example 3000 die soon the 20th but they say 7000 because they went back and added 4000 old deaths which were previously attributed to something else.
Instead they should back-date and adjust the old numbers on the date the persona actually died.
Between the Chinese , the WHO, and our own traitors the AMERICAN people were DUPED!! Duped, duped, duped!!!
Right. Follow the money.
For each date, we show the cumulative number of confirmed cases and deaths as reported that day in that county or state. All cases and deaths are counted on the date they are first announced.
thanx surprised anyone understood my complicated question
OANN did an excellent video montage of the Fauch, DeBlob and all the Dems who all said....nothing to see/worry about, here, go out and about your biz, folks.
I wish they’d post it on their website...for sharing. (When I last checked, it wasn’t up.)
DOJ should be investigating NY and Deblasio for fraud. The more COVID deaths, the more the money they get, which is a dumbass way of doing things. Should be rewarded for having less, not more. Thats the reason Chomo wont allow the Trump drugs to be used. More deths = Mo Money! Mo Money! Mo Money!
Not directed at you Kas, but this cannot be stated enough:
1. NY wont get a penny for people that die at home. COVID money for hospitals is through Medicare.
2. Many of these people were told to self quarantine, and they were suspected but not tested because there were not enough tests.
3. ALL of the flu deaths in the United States are based on the death certificate. Pneumonia during flu season: Its a flu related death. Influenza is not a reportable cause of death. ALL DEATHS RELATED TO INFLUENZA ARE ALSO ESTIMATED.
I don’t write this change anyone’s minds. I am not arguing for or against any of these deaths being counted as anything—people die at home all the time. Some probably did, some probably died of something else.
This whole death count thing is stupid. The whole prediction thing is stupid.
We should base being open or closed on whether the local hospitals have room. If there are five ICU beds...the the world run free. If they get filled up, start slowing stuff down.
Jerking the throttle open and closed is not the answer to running any “machine.” Steady pressure applied is always the best ways to prevent damage.
They moved the goal post.
It’s not the deaths. We all can agree that many people died.
We can estimate, based on medical history (calling their docs, going for a test, getting sent home, being exposed in their household...) that some of the are probably from COVID.
Its easy to take tissue samples and get them tested later. Thats not a big deal at all.
What is absurd is that the first thing the flu-fools think is that it is some ghetto conspiracy to get more money.
If you die at home, you are not getting money from anyone but your life insurance company.
But the flu-fools (My term for conspiracy nuts on both sides) feed each other with silly ideas that are not based on any reality.
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