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Why Did New York’s Coronavirus Death Count Just Spike?
Townhall.com ^ | April 15, 2020 | Larry O'Connor

Posted on 04/15/2020 11:33:33 AM PDT by Kaslin

"It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes." It may have been Stalin and it may have been Napoleon. It may have been Boss Tweed. Regardless of the original source, this truism describes government corruption and manipulation to perfection.

Even in the face of a global pandemic and an unprecedented government-ordered economic shutdown, politicians are using their power to corrupt vital needed data regarding the Chinese coronavirus and its deadly toll on Americans.

The latest escapade comes from America's "ground zero" for COVID-19 infections, New York, where the death tally just surpassed 10,000. Or did it?

The New York Post explains how previously unreported deaths are now, suddenly being included in the city's death count, and the reasons deserve scrutiny:

More than 10,000 people have died of coronavirus in New York City, including over 3,700 cases where someone never made it to a hospital, the city’s Health Department announced Tuesday.

The Big Apple’s new death toll is 10,367. That figure combines the 6,589 victims who tested positive for the virus plus another 3,778 who were never tested, but whose death certificates list the cause of death as “COVID-19 or an equivalent,” according to city Health Department data from March 11 through April 13.The Post goes on to explain that the victims of probable coronavirus seem to center mostly on individuals 75 years or older, according to the NYC Health Department.

The newly revised death count of 10,367 could very well be accurate. And, of course, it could be wrong. The previous number of 6,589 was the official number right up until the moment it wasn't because government officials decided to widen their definition of a coronavirus death.

The problem - and this is a pretty big problem - is that we are making extraordinary and unprecedented decisions that infringe on our dearly held individual liberties and are stifling our once-burgeoning economy. We Americans are grudgingly willing to make these painful concessions on a temporary basis in the spirit of protecting our fellow citizens from infection or death. But when we acquiesce to these demands on our freedom, don't we deserve sound and reliable data to justify the concessions?

Instead of solid, reliable data, our leaders have constantly moved the goalposts and even the rules of the game. The models shift, the predictions are memory-holed and now even something as seemingly solid as an accurate tally of how many people have died as a result of this virus is being fudged. And it's being fudged in the middle of the game.

It's hard for a cynic (and these days Americans who are relying on critical information from our government and from the news media should be radically cynical) to assume this shift in data is being made not for scientific or public policy purposes, but to satisfy a political agenda.

In the Trump era, hard data is tough to come by when it pertains to information that could hurt Donald Trump's presidency and legacy. There is no doubt that a liberal protocol for counting a COVID-19 death will serve to increase the total number and will be used as a political weapon against President Trump. That's just a fact.

Two and a half years after Hurricane Maria swept through Puerto Rico, we still don't have an accurate death toll because the methodology for determining those numbers was radically modified for the first time in history. And it was modified just as President Trump was touting the relatively low initial death toll as compared with other, comparable storms in American history.

The Puerto Rico death toll immediately became a political cudgel and the media used the new weapon forged with unprecedented death count protocols to hammer the president. Ironically, if many Puerto Ricans died as a result of government negligence post-Hurricane Maria, it appears to have been the fault of the local Puerto Rican officials and not the Trump Administration.

This January, it was discovered that political corruption in Puerto Rico withheld federal aid from people suffering from the hurricane in the weeks after the storm hit the tiny island. But the same media who were making the case that the inflated hurricane death toll was grounds for Trump's impeachment mostly ignored the story. They were too busy covering their latest reason for impeaching the president to be bothered with it.

Direct tallies of individuals who are conclusively found to have perished due to the coronavirus should be executed in a consistent and logical way. If the deceased individual tests positive for the virus and their death came about due to symptoms commonly associated with COVID-19, then they should count. If a person dies in their home and they are over the age of 75, and there is no indication they were exposed to the virus, they should not count. Sadly, in New York, they now do count.

How many people have died as a direct result of the Chinese coronavirus? Sadly, that depends on who's doing the counting.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; covid19; deathtoll
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How many people have died as a direct result of the Chinese coronavirus? Sadly, that depends on who's doing the counting.

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1 posted on 04/15/2020 11:33:33 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Probably allows them to get more money.


2 posted on 04/15/2020 11:34:45 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Kaslin

"Do I really have to say it?"
3 posted on 04/15/2020 11:35:49 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Kaslin

look at 2010....
“The CDC and the World Health Organization stopped trying to count all the actual cases months ago”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-flu-usa/swine-flu-has-killed-up-to-17000-in-u-s-report-idUSN1223579720100212

Swine flu has killed up to 17,000 in U.S.: report
HEALTH NEWS FEBRUARY 12, 2010 / 11:18 AM / 10 YEARS AGO

H1N1 swine flu has killed as many as 17,000 Americans, including 1,800 children, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported on Friday...

ACCURATE ESTIMATES
The CDC and the World Health Organization stopped trying to count all the actual cases months ago, once it became clear that H1N1 was a pandemic that would infect millions...


4 posted on 04/15/2020 11:36:04 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The fish wrap meOkdia promoted Obama's Benghazi lies in 2012.)
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To: Kaslin

It’s not the death that counts.

It’s who counts the death.


5 posted on 04/15/2020 11:36:34 AM PDT by sevlex
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To: ifinnegan

it does. higher govt. payment for corona deaths.


6 posted on 04/15/2020 11:37:50 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The fish wrap meOkdia promoted Obama's Benghazi lies in 2012.)
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To: Kaslin

They get MORE MONEY fro. US, the TAXPAYERS, Its CHEATING,, it’s what DEMOCRATS do!


7 posted on 04/15/2020 11:38:52 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Kaslin

Because yesterday they ADDED 3700+ deaths that MAY have been Coronavirus related, but they have no proof and never will.


8 posted on 04/15/2020 11:39:02 AM PDT by oil_dude
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To: Kaslin

Added in those that died from a hangnail.


9 posted on 04/15/2020 11:41:37 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Kaslin

Does anyone know what Trump means by “opening the economy again”? Obviously we have to get people back to work ASAP otherwise we could have a depression on our hands, but what has changed? People still are at risk


10 posted on 04/15/2020 11:42:24 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free equal justice under the law will never exist in the USA)
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To: ifinnegan

Probably allows them to get more money.

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maybe they’re playing the game? - I’ve seen it posted that classifying anyone with a cough or fever as covid19 gets an automatic $13,000 100% pay no deduct for hospitals & $33k if they’re put on the ventilator


11 posted on 04/15/2020 11:42:45 AM PDT by thinden (How many Barr haters across America are being paid by Soros to attack Barr.)
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To: ifinnegan

“Probably allows them to get more money.”

3,778 who were never tested?

You, my fine feathered friend, are astute!

As always, follow the money. No KungFlu, No Fed Money.
So, EVERYONE is dying of KungFlu.
Virtually perfect health for everyone else in Gotham.


12 posted on 04/15/2020 11:43:15 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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To: Kaslin

Were only counting people who did in hospitals or nursing homes

Number of people died at home and were not counted


13 posted on 04/15/2020 11:43:56 AM PDT by njslim
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To: Kaslin

Where are all the FEARPERS to set us “straight” and tell us how wrong we are on all this? They seem to be disappearing quickly these days!


14 posted on 04/15/2020 11:44:04 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: oil_dude
Because yesterday they ADDED 3700+ deaths that MAY have been Coronavirus related, but they have no proof and never will.

Because obviously 3,700 people suddenly died of other causes. It's ridiculous to think that some virus caused this. Clearly there are plenty of things that would cause a sudden 3,700 extra deaths.

15 posted on 04/15/2020 11:44:43 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty."/)
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To: Kaslin

Cuomo just said yesterday that the number of people being hospitalized for the virus was going down.


16 posted on 04/15/2020 11:46:48 AM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: Kaslin

Does anyone know what Trump means by “opening the economy again”? Obviously we have to get people back to work ASAP otherwise we could have a depression on our hands, but what has changed? People still are at risk


17 posted on 04/15/2020 11:47:10 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free equal justice under the law will never exist in the USA)
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To: Macoozie
3,778 who were never tested?

I wonder how many people got tested for the 1918 virus? I wonder how many got tested for the Black Plague? Or the Typhoid epidemics? Or the Smallpox epidemics?

We can never be sure that all those extra deaths were actually caused by those diseases. They may have been caused by something else.

18 posted on 04/15/2020 11:47:20 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty."/)
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To: njslim

How dare you interfere and project logic against conspiritard theories.

A lot of victims just die in a ally or at home. How does NYC or hospitals get Federal funds off those cases, lol?


19 posted on 04/15/2020 11:49:10 AM PDT by rollo tomasi
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To: dowcaet
Where are all the FEARPERS to set us “straight” and tell us how wrong we are on all this? They seem to be disappearing quickly these days!

What part are you supposed to be wrong about? Doesn't everyone know that an extra 3,700 people dying suddenly could have been caused by lots of things other than a virus that happens to be rampaging through the community.

20 posted on 04/15/2020 11:49:31 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty."/)
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