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U.S. military says coronavirus likely occurred naturally but not certain
Reuters ^ | April 14, 2020 | by Phil Stewart and Idrees Ali

Posted on 04/14/2020 1:02:34 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

WASHINGTON - The U.S. military believes that the coronavirus likely occurred naturally, as opposed to being developed in a Chinese laboratory, but there is still no certainty either way, the top U.S. general said on Tuesday.

“There’s a lot of rumor and speculation in a wide variety of media, the blog sites, etc. It should be no surprise to you that we’ve taken a keen interest in that and we’ve had a lot of intelligence take a hard look at that,” Army General Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told a news briefing, when asked if there was any evidence the coronavirus may have been developed in a Chinese laboratory.

“And I would just say, at this point, it’s inconclusive although the weight of evidence seems to indicate natural. But we don’t know for certain.”

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bats; china; gainoffunction; virus; wuhan
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1 posted on 04/14/2020 1:02:34 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

How about........ BULL SH##


2 posted on 04/14/2020 1:05:21 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So why say anything at all if you can’t prove it?


3 posted on 04/14/2020 1:06:30 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: ronnie raygun

It’s the very PC thing to say. They know otherwise...


4 posted on 04/14/2020 1:07:00 PM PDT by Starcitizen (Communist China needs to be treated like the parish country it is. Send it back to 1971)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

GREAT pic! That tells the ENTIRE story!


5 posted on 04/14/2020 1:08:40 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If this was an engineered virus, it was poorly designed. Mother Nature generates higher levels of “sickness” annually.

If released from a biological research facility, it may have just been being observed for effects, or perhaps even being modified and then observed for effects, and it was accidentally released to the wild.

More likely, Nature coughed up this random POS and bestowed it upon our biosphere.

Occam’s Razor, IMO, seems to indicate that this is a “natural” occurrence, IMO.

You never know, though! (Could be a 1-2 punch method where this virus weakens the populace and the next step involves the death blow virus that wipes out billions)(See, I can Conspiracy Theorize just like anyone else!) :)


6 posted on 04/14/2020 1:10:43 PM PDT by Pox (Eff You China. Buy American!)
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To: Pox

If this virus ends up killing Free Trade, the really high levels of LEGAL immigration that has been foisted on us and globalism in general then it will have a silver lining.


7 posted on 04/14/2020 1:13:21 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: ronnie raygun

Art of the Deal.

We’re not going to admit it’s a bioweapon until Trump becomes convinced that he’s unable to extort enough from them.


8 posted on 04/14/2020 1:14:10 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This was an engineered virus, made by
Pangolins in their labs using their ACE-2
S protein with bat SARS coronavirus.
The Pangolins admitted it was NOVEL,
and published it the very same day, that the first
infection leaked out from the Pangolin
Level IV lab in Puhan, which had leaked
three times previously.

No. it was the Chinese, not the Pangolins;
although the Pangolin RNA was spliced.

So why else protect the Chinese military?
Leading to one obvious question:
did the army have role here like Lyme Disease?


9 posted on 04/14/2020 1:19:57 PM PDT by Diogenesis ( WWG1WGA)
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To: Pox
Occam’s Razor, IMO, seems to indicate that this is a “natural” occurrence, IMO.

There are multiple reports that the closest bat cave is hundreds of miles away, and because of that bats aren’t sold at the Wuhan wet market. Occam’s Razor would then indicate it came from Wuhan lab, which then raises the question of whether it was being manipulated in some fashion.

10 posted on 04/14/2020 1:20:42 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (There is no difference between the Eric Holder Justice Department and Jeff Sessions - DJT)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The U.S. military believes that the coronavirus likely occurred naturally, as opposed to being developed in a Chinese laboratory, but there is still no certainty either way, the top U.S. general said on Tuesday.

They are not mutually exclusive. The coronavirus could be naturally occurring, but then it was isolated and developed in a laboratory.
11 posted on 04/14/2020 1:22:41 PM PDT by Chad_the_Impaler
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

1. The city of Wuhan gets sick
2. China quarantines the entire metroplex except for international travelers...a huh
3. Chinese superiors study the effects within their sphere
4. Wuhan ends up being one massive biological experiment
4.1. (Possibly mass vaccinations in concert—which they already developed ahead of everyone else)
5. The world gets brought to their knees and China laughs

PS. CHICOMS MADE NO SECRET THEY WOULD DO THIS.

I call the Army’s assessment BS


12 posted on 04/14/2020 1:26:08 PM PDT by Deepeasttx
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To: central_va
If this virus ends up killing Free Trade…

We can hope and pray that will happen, but so long as it’s cheaper to manufacture and then ship from China, than it is to build locally, the same businessmen that shipped our industries there, at a cost to them, will continue to use those investments. Only by prohibition from the government, or boycott by the customer, will they likely change their minds. I boycott China everywhere I can, but it’s often hidden, and therefore impossible. Hence, it is likely that only our government can force this change, whether they will remains to be seen.

13 posted on 04/14/2020 1:26:23 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (There is no difference between the Eric Holder Justice Department and Jeff Sessions - DJT)
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To: Pox

How’s the weather in Beijing, Pox?
Spend your 50 cents well.


14 posted on 04/14/2020 1:28:13 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: mass55th

He was responding to a question.


15 posted on 04/14/2020 1:28:17 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Golden Eagle
Only by prohibition from the government, or boycott by the customer, will they likely change their minds.

You don't get it. The cost of production does not translate into much savings and benefit to the retail consumer.

All we need is a tariff on imports, say 20%. Then get of the way!!

16 posted on 04/14/2020 1:29:59 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Golden Eagle
I disagree.

You're still reaching too hard with ifs, ands, and buts, IMO.

With the useful information we currently have, this being an engineered virus doesn't seem to fit the known facts, but then again, the known facts at this time are few and far between.

If this was man made, outside of speculation, please provide definitive proof.

What do you mean, there is none?

What do you mean, your theory is all the proof that is necessary?

At this time, there is no way to pin any theory down as fact with what little is known. Looking at the damage dealt by the virus, the most simple conclusion is “natural”. That doesn't mean it is the correct conclusion.

Until definitive proof is provided, I typically go with what fits the known facts. I'm always open to changing my opinion when provided with a more reasonable explanation that better explains the situation with what facts are known, and more facts may surface that we currently aren't aware of.

If this is a Chinese WMD virus, I say we go to war with them right now, Biological WMD’s vs Biological WMD’s. We can't lose! /s

17 posted on 04/14/2020 1:32:06 PM PDT by Pox (Eff You China. Buy American!)
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To: ronnie raygun

Agree 100% BUT to admit otherwise would be to admit China has committed an act of war. And that would require a lot more than a nasty diplomatic note and financial sanctions in response. I do not believe Pres Trump wants to go in that direction. But if we could do to Xi what we did to Soeiliman and do it live on TV, if we could do that then I would be down with that.


18 posted on 04/14/2020 1:32:55 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: grey_whiskers

How does the interior of your colon look up close? I figure since your head is planted up your fourth point of contact, you should have a near perfect description available!


19 posted on 04/14/2020 1:33:18 PM PDT by Pox (Eff You China. Buy American!)
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To: mass55th

Most reasonable follow up question yet. Because... this is fake news?


20 posted on 04/14/2020 1:33:38 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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