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1 posted on 04/12/2020 10:50:39 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

It would be interesting but not change anything.


2 posted on 04/12/2020 10:54:27 AM PDT by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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He was wrapped in strips of linen.

“Nicodemus brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy-five pounds. Taking Jesus’ body, the two of them wrapped it, with the spices, in strips of linen.” John 19:39-40

Interestingly the article posted after this one is about the burial strips.


3 posted on 04/12/2020 10:58:59 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Kaslin

If it is fake, it would be strange that the artist would know about positive and negative images.


5 posted on 04/12/2020 11:06:47 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free equal justice under the law will never exist in the USA)
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FROM THE MSMS EVERY EASTER...

WHO IS JESUS?
What If the Shroud of Turin Is Christ’s Authentic Burial Cloth?
And, of course, reruns of Charlton Heston’s “MOSES”.

Why not...
CHRIST IS RISEN! HE IS ALIVE! JESUS WON THE VICTORY!


6 posted on 04/12/2020 11:06:51 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. (Psalm 32:12))
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To: Kaslin

If fake, how was the 3D image on the shroud created?


7 posted on 04/12/2020 11:09:06 AM PDT by newfreep ("INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" - DAVID HOROWITZ)
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To: Kaslin

I like the story that it is from Jacques DeMolay from the Knights Templar. The Templars were rounded up on Friday the 13th and Jacques DeMolay was crucified in effigy of Christ. The Carbon dating even puts the shroud into that timeline.


9 posted on 04/12/2020 11:15:44 AM PDT by usual suspect
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To: Kaslin

If one believes in the shroud of Turin, it is logical to ask then what one believes about other Christian relics as well. St. Helena’s One True Cross - which was supposedly lost when the Turks conquered Constantinople, but which other European churches claim to have fragments of, or the Holy Nails which were used in Christ’s crucifixion, or the Crown of Thorns on display at Notre Dame. This list could be very long.

I don’t doubt that many genuine relics do exist. Christ was a great and famous man in his own time. It is therefore natural for people to have saved items connected to Him, just as we have items owned by kings from a thousand years ago.

I suppose the question is, at this point, how to know for sure.


10 posted on 04/12/2020 11:17:08 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Kaslin
Indeed, what if Christ Jesus is real?

What if:

-The things He said were true?

-There is a Heaven and a Hell?

-What if those dead in sin actually do go to Hell for all eternity?

-What if those that die in friendship with Jesus live with him forever in paradise?

-What if the Catholic Church is...

The One True Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church founded by Christ Jesus
                                                                                                                            , that built Christendom(western civilization.)
          The Nicene Creed
          I believe in one God,
          the Father almighty,
          maker of heaven and earth,
          of all things visible and invisible.
+10 One God
          I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ,
          the Only Begotten Son of God,
          born of the Father before all ages.
+15 Christ Jesus
          God from God, Light from Light,
          true God from true God,
          begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father;
          through him all things were made.
+ 1 Consubstantial with the Father
          For us men and for our salvation
          he came down from heaven,
+ 1 For our salvation
           and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary,
          and became man.
+ 1 Virgin Birth
          For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate,
          he suffered death and was buried,
          and rose again on the third day
          in accordance with the Scriptures.
+10 Suffered, Died and Rose
          He ascended into heaven
          and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
+ 1 Ascended, Seated
          He will come again in glory
          to judge the living and the dead
          and his kingdom will have no end.
+10 Come Again in Glory to Judge
          I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
          who proceeds from the Father and the Son,
          who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified,
          who has spoken through the prophets.
+10 Holy Trinity
          I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.
+10 One Visible Church
          I confess one Baptism for the forgiveness of sins
+ 1 One Baptism
          and I look forward to the resurrection of the dead
          and the life of the world to come.
+10 Resurrection of the Dead
          The Ten Commandments:
          1. I am the LORD your God. You shall worship the Lord your God
              and Him only shall you serve.
          2. You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
          3. Remember to keep holy the Sabbath day.
          4. Honor your father and your mother.
          5. You shall not murder.
          6. You shall not commit adultery.
          7. You shall not steal.
          8. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
          9. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife.
          10.You shall not covet your neighbor's goods.
+10 The Ten Commandments
          The Greatest Commandment
          1. Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with thy whole heart, and with thy
               whole soul, and with thy whole mind, and with thy whole strength
          2. Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.
+ 2 The Greatest Commnadments
          The Seven Sacraments Catholic Church:
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          2. Eucharist.
          3. Confirmation.
          4. Reconciliation.
          5. Anointing of the sick.
          6. Marriage.(XY+XX, Till death do us part)
          7. Holy orders.
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          The Precepts of the Catholic Church:
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               and rest from servile labor.
          2. You shall confess your sins at least once a year.
          3. You shall receive the sacrament of the Eucharist at least during the
              Easter season.
          4. You shall observe the days of fasting and abstinence established by
               the Church.
          5. You shall help to provide for the needs of the Church.
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          The seven chief corporal works of mercy:
          1. To feed the hungry.
          2. To give drink to the thirsty.
          3. To clothe the naked.
          4. To visit the imprisoned.
          5. To shelter the homeless.
          6. To visit the sick.
          7. To bury the dead.
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          The seven chief spiritual works of mercy:
          1. To admonish the sinner.
          2. To instruct the ignorant.
          3. To counsel the doubtful.
          4. To comfort the sorrowful.
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          6. To forgive all injuries.
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the Catholic Church. There are millions of people who hate
what they wrongly believe to be the Catholic Church
— which is, of course, quite a different thing. - Fulton J. Sheen
Lord, keep us strong. Keep us bold and filled with love for our
enemies and for all those who are troubled and in need of healing.
Never allow us to hide or to be concerned for our own safety, but
rather concerned only that your glorious and Holy Name
bring healing and grace, conviction for our sins, repentance, and
therefore mercy.
Help us, Lord, to stay faithful, courageous, and bold no matter the threats,
the hardships, the persecution, and even the ruthless attempts at suppression.
May no one who looks at us conclude anything less than
that we “have been with Jesus."
           -Dr. Mary Healy

Amen


                                                            * Click the pic to learn how to say it in Latin
Please note that this image is merely an artistic depiction of Saint Michael the Archangel
and Satan in human like form and may or may not be an accurate resemblance to their actual
forms or all accounts of forms in which they may or may not have actually appeared either
separately or together.

Sáncte Míchael Archángele,
Saint Michael the Archangel,
Sahn tay Me kale ark ann ja lay

defénde nos in proélio,
defend us in battle.
de fen day nos en pro leo

cóntra nequítiam et insídias diáboli ésto præsídium.
Be our protection against the malice and snares of the devil.
contra neh-queet ee um et in cid e ah s dee ob lay esto pray sid ee um

Ímperet ílli Déus,súpplices deprecámur:
May God rebuke him we humbly pray;
Im pair et ee lay Day-ews soup-lay-chase day-pray-che-more

tuque, prínceps milítiæ cæléstis,
O Prince of the Heavenly host
too quay pren-cheps may-lee-tea-a che-lace-tees

Sátanam aliósque spíritus malígnos,
Satan and all evil spirits
Say tan um ah lee o squeece spear ee toose mah ling nos

qui ad perditiónem animárum pervagántur in múndo,
who wander through the world for the ruin of souls
quee ard per dits ee own um ani mon um prev a gon tour en mundo

divína virtúte,
by the divine power of God,
day vee nay ver-toot-tay

in inférnum detrúde.
thrust into hell
en in fair num day-too-tay

Ámen.


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13 posted on 04/12/2020 11:19:31 AM PDT by infool7 (When you have the Lord, nothing else is important and everything is fascinating!)
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To: Kaslin

What if its not?


19 posted on 04/12/2020 11:30:24 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Be strong & prosper, be weak & die! Stay true.... ~~ Donald J. Trump)
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What if it's authentic?

All I can say is I believe in my heart it is. Those who choose to not believe that's up to them.

20 posted on 04/12/2020 11:32:18 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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There is ZERO question that it is REAL!

Do I “need” it to be real to believe? Of course not.

I didn’t need Ballard to find the Titanic to know that it sank, but it sure was interesting when they found it!


21 posted on 04/12/2020 11:35:25 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Kaslin

It wouldn’t change a thing. Not one bit.


22 posted on 04/12/2020 11:37:05 AM PDT by Gamecock (We love works righteousness because it satisfies our desire to judge others. (R.K).)
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I think it's a one-in-a-billion accident caused by a piece of statuary, a length of cloth, some naturally-occurring radioactive elements and about six hundred years in a quiet place.

If I'm right, it means that the artifact isn't the result of a miracle. But it validates the existence of Jesus and the influence he had at a very early stage.

24 posted on 04/12/2020 11:39:02 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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OK, what if? We don’t need artifacts to believe in the resurrection of Christ.


26 posted on 04/12/2020 11:44:12 AM PDT by beethovenfan (Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Kaslin

It doesn’t matter - Jesus is alive.


28 posted on 04/12/2020 11:48:20 AM PDT by Psalm 73
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Well, it definitely needs to be dry cleaned......


29 posted on 04/12/2020 11:48:40 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (How did I survive the Swine flu and the killer flu of 2017-18 without govt. help?)
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I’ll ask Him when He comes for me.

Somehow, I think that and a BILLION other things will just be “revealed” to me without words at that moment.


30 posted on 04/12/2020 11:56:52 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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I am under the impression that it is the official position of the Catholic Church that it is not the burial cloth of Christ, yet an Archbishop prayed before it.


32 posted on 04/12/2020 12:02:41 PM PDT by lasereye
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Since they can’t recreate the shroud, it leads to 1 of 2 possible conclusions.

1. Either 12th century science was better than 21st century science.

2. It is the burial cloth of Christ.

You decide which one makes more sense.


34 posted on 04/12/2020 12:12:02 PM PDT by desertfreedom765
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Strips of cloth, burial cloths, burial clothes?

Different versions of the bible have it different ways.

” 40 So they took the body of Jesus and bound it in linen wrappings with the spices, as is the burial custom of the Jews.

If it was the custom at the time (strips of linen) then why was the guy on the shroud buried in a shroud instead?

“King James Bible
Then took they the body of Jesus, and wound it in linen clothes with the spices, as the manner of the Jews is to bury.”

Linen CLOTHES. NOT cloths. Just for you “King James only” people.

Actually MOST versions say “clothes”.

We can’t know for sure since there is no video.


35 posted on 04/12/2020 12:17:28 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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