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Could that nasty crud you had last fall have been COVID-19?
Pinedale ^ | 4/11/2020 | editorial

Posted on 04/11/2020 11:55:44 AM PDT by george76

There has been speculation for weeks around the possibility that the COVID-19 virus hit the United States, and possibly Wyoming, weeks before previously thought, and many more people already have had it and don’t realize it, and those people are now immune. Right now this is just conjecture, but it is worth having the discussion.

Buckrail. posted an article on April 9th about a Jackson doctor who shares this belief and has been fairly outspoken about it. Every community seems to have their own local name for it, and in Jackson they call it "that awful JH crud" that was circulating back in December 2019 and in January. In Pinedale it is often called "the Pinedale crud." It included a terrible cough that just couldn’t be shaken and seemed to last for weeks, longer than usual. It was passed off as an upper respiratory infection. There was no test for it then.

Jackson Hole gets many international tourists, including many from China. Yellowstone National Park has three million visitors a year; Grand Teton Park over two million. All the park gateway communities, including Pinedale, see a fraction of those visitors each summer.

The implications, the article says, are crucial. It means this virus may have already started working its way through Wyoming weeks to months earlier than thought and there might already be some herd immunity to it in Wyoming. The answer won’t be known until there is a test for antibodies in the blood. So it is still very important to continue all the current directives for hand washing, social distancing, and keeping sick people away from vulnerable populations.

Right now this is just a theory, but it is definitely something to think about if you are one of the ones who got awfully sick in the November/December/January timeframe last fall and are still alive today to talk about it. Once tested for antibodies, if positive, those people could immediately go back to work and our economy could get moving a whole lot faster than what was earlier thought. The people who haven’t had it could continue to self-isolate by choice, rather than by state shut-down directive, until there is either a vaccine (which may take at least a year or more) or drugs that can minimize the impacts of the effects of getting the virus.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: china; covid19; crud; disease; flu; kungflu; pneumonia; virus; wuhan; wyoming
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To: Hojczyk

“but Florida has not had many cases”

I can personally vouch for a lot of cases!


41 posted on 04/11/2020 12:34:44 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: DugwayDuke

I lack the info to disagree.

You are most likely correct


42 posted on 04/11/2020 12:35:06 PM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: kaehurowing
False and dangerous news. We know from studying the virus that it originated sometime in late November. It only started spreading in Wuhan the middle of December, and the doctors there only started realizing what it was the end of December. (Dr. Li Wenliang and others.)

What you are saying actually supports the theory that it has been in the US since November. You think the virus only travels once the Chicoms recognize it? If it originated and was in the wild in China in November, then it follows that it was on every flight from China to the US and elsewhere since November, too.
43 posted on 04/11/2020 12:35:11 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: copaliscrossing

Funny how the media and hospitals etc aren’t talking about this obvious and matter of fact element.

Hawaii being the first to encounter shouldn’t be a surprise either with all of the tourism from every corner of earth. I wonder how many Hawaiians died from late October to mid January from this flu/cold? Because now, they have surprisingly little in covid illneses which would fit the narrative that they were on the early end of receiving the virus. Which of course, didn’t kill enough people to be out of normal lines of death from flu/colds...


44 posted on 04/11/2020 12:35:16 PM PDT by Professional
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To: exDemMom

That is the date they figured it out...it could have been floating around for months as the flu

We will never know..who is right..the CDC will never tell they screwed up..the IYIS


45 posted on 04/11/2020 12:35:18 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: DannyTN

there very well could have been covid cases unrecognized in the middle of a worse than usual flu season


46 posted on 04/11/2020 12:35:27 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: cherry

it also leads to ARDS


47 posted on 04/11/2020 12:36:34 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: buckalfa

See my #37.

I’m in Central SC.


48 posted on 04/11/2020 12:36:41 PM PDT by Gamecock (We love works righteousness because it satisfies our desire to judge others. (R.K).)
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To: exDemMom

Yeah, you just keep parroting the lines baby...


49 posted on 04/11/2020 12:37:05 PM PDT by Professional
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To: TexasGator

of the CORVID16 since February,,,alot before diagnosed as the flu

Jan 8,2020

Flu season is hitting hard already. ‘People feel like they have been hit by a bus.’

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/health/fl-ne-flu-season-florida-20200108-smylr2hx5zhc7fnewajgajidfa-story.html


50 posted on 04/11/2020 12:40:18 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: DesertRhino

When they start the testing for antibodies get the test and you will know!!


51 posted on 04/11/2020 12:41:18 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Vermont Lt

“Covid a lower respiratory infection that would have shown up with bi-lateral pneumonia.”

COVID can be an upper respiratory infection and bi-lateral pneumonia may not occur.


52 posted on 04/11/2020 12:41:56 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: buckalfa

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/health/fl-ne-flu-season-florida-20200108-smylr2hx5zhc7fnewajgajidfa-story.html


53 posted on 04/11/2020 12:41:59 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: george76

I’m so old I had COVID-1


54 posted on 04/11/2020 12:41:59 PM PDT by dynachrome (The panic will end, the tyranny will not)
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To: Hojczyk

“Flu season is hitting hard already. “

Flu season hit hard but is mostly over.


55 posted on 04/11/2020 12:43:39 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: george76

One of my golfing buddies here in East Texas had what sure seems like now COVID 19 back in January. He had gone to a conference in D.C. in mid December, he thinks he picked it up then. High fever of 103 plus, bad cough, shortness of breath, very weak, went to the hospital twice. They said it was a bad flu, tested him twice and it cane back negative each time. He said for ten days all he could do is lay in bed, only got up to use the bathroom. Once he seemed to be over it, he was weak for a couple weeks, he had lost 8 pounds, but now he says he feels fine, he is in his 50s. His wife didn’t get it, nor did anyone he works with.


56 posted on 04/11/2020 12:44:28 PM PDT by machman
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To: TexasGator

I understand at first. But what these people are all describing is an upper respiratory infection that swept through the country in November and December.

If they ALL got it, and none of them died...it wasn’t COVID. Simple math proves that not to be the case.

It went through a couple of nursing homes around here. No one died from it. It happens every year. Most years people would hot recall it. But now they are hearing the symptoms and trying to placate their brains into thinking they had COVID.

It is a common delusion. (Not a “crazy” delusional, but it is akin to the number of people who say they were at Woodstock, who actually were not.)


57 posted on 04/11/2020 12:46:02 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: dynachrome

LOL


58 posted on 04/11/2020 12:46:19 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: DesertRhino

My 70+ mom had a 6 week upper respiratory virus mid January in Nowheresville Alabama. I thought for sure she would end up in the hospital. She didn’t but it was close. My dad got it (he will be omega man) and was sick for a few days. I expect they both are now immune but they are hiding out in their house. They need to be tested for immunity.
Antibodies.


59 posted on 04/11/2020 12:46:52 PM PDT by wgmalabama (Piss on China. They nuked US and Europe with a bio weapon. Payback time.)
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To: TexasGator
“Covid a lower respiratory infection that would have shown up with bi-lateral pneumonia.” COVID can be an upper respiratory infection and bi-lateral pneumonia may not occur.

In my above post I outlined what happened to me in January and what you just posted describes exactly what I had when I finally went to the doctor and got the Z-pack and Albuterol. Upper respiratory/bronchial infection. Lungs were clear.
60 posted on 04/11/2020 12:48:21 PM PDT by copaliscrossing (Comparison is the beginning of discontent.)
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