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Gavin Newsom Declares California a ‘Nation-State’
Yahoo/Bloomberg ^ | April 9, 2020 | Francis Wilkinson

Posted on 04/09/2020 2:07:02 PM PDT by lowbridge

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; gavinnewsom; nationstate; newsom; secession
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To: lowbridge

This is an op/ed.


81 posted on 04/09/2020 2:45:45 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: M1903A1

Well, the water from Lake Tahoe flows to NevaDUH so...... And About 10 miles northwest of me is the state line so there could be a road block or two.


82 posted on 04/09/2020 2:49:12 PM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: lowbridge

I must be the last person on earth who knows what a nation state is.


83 posted on 04/09/2020 2:49:35 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: CMailBag

The Wanna Be King, Newsom, doesn’t represent the wishes of the citizens of the state of California. He does this crap all on his own with his Marxist cohorts in the CA Assembly. The Marxist got into office via voter fraud. He’s loathed and despised. There was a recall effort a few months ago where people were literally running across parking lots to sign. Newsom’s cohorts screwed the Recall Petition drive. Time to start over with another Recall.


84 posted on 04/09/2020 2:50:19 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Reverend Wright

If America is divisible, then California is divisible.

Bingo. We have the guns, the farmers/ranchers and a lot of good blue collar people.

They would have LA/Follywood, Gay Frisco, Silly Con Valley, and Sac..


85 posted on 04/09/2020 2:50:27 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Evolution works! Can not stand the heat! Get off the planet! Gorebull Warming weeding out the weak!)
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To: lowbridge

So Nancy Pelosi no longer has standing as a US senator? Cool!


86 posted on 04/09/2020 2:50:45 PM PDT by madison10 (Wash your hands & say your prayers cause Jesus & germs are everywhere)
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To: lowbridge

His language is ridiculous and coming from anyone other than a total bozo would be treasonous.

But coming from a clown, you expect it to be funny and if you think about it, it really is. It’s a lesson in how to ruin a country by sheer stupidity:

1. Under the Constitution the States are sovereign and they are supposed to run their own affairs and their own hospitals.

2. The progressives were impatient with States not being progressive enough on matters like commerce (the New Deal) and social policy (which for them means only one thing: abortion). So they trashed Federalism as racist “States rights” and got the Federal government (mostly via the courts) to run everything from the schools to health care.

3. Now they they think the Federal government is responsible for everything and so the blue States do nothing to (for example) stock their own ventilators (New York decided not to buy them, California bought then then got tired of paying for the storage).

4. Now they think they need to secede in order to get the rights they had in stage 1.


87 posted on 04/09/2020 2:52:17 PM PDT by edwinland
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To: beancounter13
I think everyone south of Orange County, east of the High Sierras and north of Sacramento would choose to stay in the US.

You're right. We here in the Eastern Sierra don't want any part of his Lefty nonsense.

88 posted on 04/09/2020 2:52:34 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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To: madison10

Nancy Pelosi isn’t a Senator.


89 posted on 04/09/2020 2:52:58 PM PDT by EvilCapitalist (Pets are no substitute for children.)
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To: EvilCapitalist

Whoops. I knew that. House of Reps. Still applies.


90 posted on 04/09/2020 2:56:23 PM PDT by madison10 (Wash your hands & say your prayers cause Jesus & germs are everywhere)
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To: lowbridge

Hey, that means no more Pelosi, Schiff. And Mad Maxine in Congress! Plus, the loss of all those Dumbocrat electoral votes!


91 posted on 04/09/2020 2:56:59 PM PDT by Real Cynic No More (Make America Great. Prosecute Dems who break the law!)
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To: Thommas

Without the massive electoral college block from California, the Dems in the Federal USA would be in dire straights.

The DNC will never win another national election if California secedes and takes its electoral votes, 53/55.

They would lose 2 $inators and most of our 53 representatives aka Congressits.


92 posted on 04/09/2020 2:57:28 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Evolution works! Can not stand the heat! Get off the planet! Gorebull Warming weeding out the weak!)
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To: gibsonguy

Ok Gavin, sounds good. Ca EV votes do not count now. Trump wins easily. The rats have NO path without those votes.

That is what I have posting and told some a$$hole Cali elites a couple of years ago when they were talking about seceding to hurt Trump.


93 posted on 04/09/2020 2:59:05 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Evolution works! Can not stand the heat! Get off the planet! Gorebull Warming weeding out the weak!)
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To: OpusatFR

So in other words, Pelosi and the rest of Cali’s elected Congresscritters are null and void?

Plus 2 Sinators and a lot of left wing judges in the federal courts.


94 posted on 04/09/2020 3:00:53 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Evolution works! Can not stand the heat! Get off the planet! Gorebull Warming weeding out the weak!)
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To: Ken H

All commie lowlife, Socialist, NWO types!


95 posted on 04/09/2020 3:01:29 PM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Agreed, using the term may not be improper as a rhetorical device.
The important part: he’s shifting the Overton Window by referring to CA not as a State as part of the United States, but as a separate entity (if only as a largely coastal population adhered to the southwestern corner of North America).
The shift makes it easier to think about outright “otherness” & independence.

Akin to Rwanda, I expect we’ll wake up one morning to find CA radio stations declaring “It’s time!” and the population knowing exactly what that means, violently & rapidly severing all ties with the USA proper. “California is a nation-state” prepares for that time.

(Observation: there’s only about 30ish roads in/out of CA, if I recall.)


96 posted on 04/09/2020 3:02:12 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Interesting how those so interested in workERS are so disinterested in workING.)
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To: livius

Crushed under Abrams tank treads!


97 posted on 04/09/2020 3:02:15 PM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: Spirochete

Relocate them!! Too much blood and treasure spent on the Continental US. Send them to Canada!


98 posted on 04/09/2020 3:03:31 PM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: beancounter13

The state of Jefferson, our counties along the Oregon border and Oregon’s border with Cali would finally be viable.

That would bring in 2 Republican Senators and several representatives and more electoral votes.


99 posted on 04/09/2020 3:04:12 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Evolution works! Can not stand the heat! Get off the planet! Gorebull Warming weeding out the weak!)
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To: lowbridge

“Newsom is accomplishing a few things here, with what can only be a deliberate lack of subtlety. First and foremost, he is trying to relieve the shortage of personal protective equipment — a crisis the White House has proved incapable of remedying. Details are a little fuzzy, but Newsom, according to news reports, has organized multiple suppliers to deliver roughly 200 million masks monthly.”

Who stopped him from doing this before now? And isn’t that his responsibility to begin with?

Seems like the only thing he and Cuomo and the other Rat governors are capable of is groveling to the federal government, and then complaining like little kids.


100 posted on 04/09/2020 3:05:59 PM PDT by aquila48
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