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Bankrupting America
Townhall.com ^ | April 8, 2020 | John Stossel

Posted on 04/08/2020 4:55:29 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 04/08/2020 4:55:29 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

You can always tell a libertarian but you can’t tell him much.


2 posted on 04/08/2020 4:59:11 AM PDT by j.argese (/s tags: If you have a mind unnecessary. If you're a cretin it really doesn't matter, does it?)
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To: Kaslin

I think default is inevitable.

People act like it is “impossible” to default because its so drastic. Well, it’s “impossible” to pay $24T in debt.

The system of debt that the central banks have created is a bad system. Time to sweep it away.


3 posted on 04/08/2020 5:00:36 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: Kaslin

Yeah, I am not good with it. I feel as though the government is buying us. What ever happened to bonds? Didn’t we fight WWII on war bonds?


4 posted on 04/08/2020 5:00:57 AM PDT by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: Kaslin

1. Raise taxes.

2. Print money.

3. Default.

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Or grow the economy.

Stossel likes to whine and play the ideological Libertarian every now and then.

Yes, the debt is too high, but the most important thing is to make sure the economy can make a quick recovery, and Trump did that. He had to make deal with the devils in the Democrat party, but there was no choice. One good thing is that interest rates are low.

The worst possible action would have been to play the austere ideological Libertarian or Conservative and let the economy sink into a deep depression.


5 posted on 04/08/2020 5:04:00 AM PDT by Moonman62 (http://www.freerepublic.com/~moonman62/)
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To: Kaslin

Finance it at near 0% interest rates. And refinance more of the debt at near 0% interest rates.

Get back to growing the economy and pay it off over time.

No need to raise taxes in the short run, doing so would be counter productive.

To the extent the stimulus is loans that get paid back, you pay it off when the loan is collected.

Monetary policy can be reversed at the appropriate time.


6 posted on 04/08/2020 5:04:59 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: yldstrk

What ever happened to bonds?

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The government will be issuing bonds to cover the cost.


7 posted on 04/08/2020 5:04:59 AM PDT by Moonman62 (http://www.freerepublic.com/~moonman62/)
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To: Kaslin

The national debt is a huge problem. We will eventually pay the price.

But the author forgot another option:

4: Rev up the Economy

The debt is very large, but if the economy revs up and we stop spending (annual “deficit” goes negative), we will eventually pay off the debt.

This approach allows us to absorb the pain over a long period of time.

But I don’t hold out hope that our politicians will do it. They can’t campaign on “tightening our belts.”


8 posted on 04/08/2020 5:05:57 AM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: DannyTN

Finance it at near 0% interest rates. And refinance more of the debt at near 0% interest rates.

Get back to growing the economy and pay it off over time.

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You’ve got it.


9 posted on 04/08/2020 5:06:33 AM PDT by Moonman62 (http://www.freerepublic.com/~moonman62/)
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To: Kaslin

CLOWARD-PIVEN on Steroids!


10 posted on 04/08/2020 5:06:53 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: j.argese

Based on the information we had at the time, what other options were there?


11 posted on 04/08/2020 5:08:02 AM PDT by excalibur21
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To: yldstrk
The U.S. government didn’t need war bonds to finance World War II.

The purpose of selling war bonds was to get people to give up their excess cash during the war, for the purpose of stifling black market activity for materials that were needed for the war effort.

12 posted on 04/08/2020 5:08:43 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And somewhere in the darkness ... the gambler, he broke even.")
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Anyone who writes an article like this that only focuses on the threat of inflation is missing half the point. A detailed explanation of DEFLATION is warranted in an article like this ... to explain the real reason for the massive government intervention in our economy right now.


13 posted on 04/08/2020 5:11:05 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And somewhere in the darkness ... the gambler, he broke even.")
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Growing the economy only works if you aren’t also growing the deficit with it.
Look at the last 3 years. We’ve evolved the greatest economy in world history and yet instead of taking advantage of it to chip away at our debt we spent, and spent, and spent.


14 posted on 04/08/2020 5:12:19 AM PDT by BuckeyeGOP
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Articles like this illustrate how much the political landscape has been re-aligned in the last 25 years.

It’s no longer Democrat vs. Republican in politics. It’s now Globalist vs. Nationalist, which explains why it’s so easy to envision GOP dopes like Romney or Kasich in a Biden cabinet ... and why Donald Trump is likely to get a lot of votes from Bernie Sanders supporters in November.

15 posted on 04/08/2020 5:15:57 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And somewhere in the darkness ... the gambler, he broke even.")
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To: DannyTN
And refinance more of the debt at near 0% interest rates.

Federal debt is not demand debt. It's not a mortgage where you can find someone else to lend you money at a lower interest rate so you can pay off your current mortgage which has a higher rate. Federal debt - be it bills, notes, or bonds - is traded on the financial markets, and the only way for the government to retire it early is to buy it back. If you're buying back debt that has a higher interest rate than the current rates then you're going to pay a premium for it. If you want to buy back $1 trillion in debt that is paying 3% for example then it's going to cost you more than $1 trillion to do it. So if you're borrowing money at a lower rate but increasing the federal debt by 10% or 15% or 20% to do it then are you really better off?

16 posted on 04/08/2020 5:22:00 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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Finance it at near 0% interest rates. And refinance more of the debt at near 0% interest rates.

Okay

Who buys a bond or T-Bill that pays 0% interest?

Even if inflation is 3% it is still eating your lunch.

Why would anyone invest in a bond that is guaranteed to lose money.

17 posted on 04/08/2020 5:23:13 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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Some places in Europe have *negative* interest rates.


18 posted on 04/08/2020 5:26:31 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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Just saw a piece on Fox this a.m., “How will the stimulus effect your wallet?”

I love it. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. If Trump didn't do the stimulus...people would rail on him. Trump moves on stimulus and people start this nonsense.

Our government is waaaaaaaay past caring about the freakin debt. In fact, I've even heard back in the Obozo days, then a week or so ago in regards to minting a couple of Platinum coins and denominating them in the trillions...lol

Ho hum...life goes on.

19 posted on 04/08/2020 5:30:07 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: grey_whiskers
Those are Prime Interest Rates. The rates on money the Central Banks loan to Commercial Banks.

That is not the rate on Treasury Bonds or Bills which is the way governments borrow money.

20 posted on 04/08/2020 5:34:23 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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