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Watters' World 4/4/20 FULL SHOW [Is the NYC Hydroxychloroquine trial a fake? FDA Commissioner Hahn says results will take "months"]
Watters World via YouTube ^ | 4/4/2020 | Jesse Watters

Posted on 04/04/2020 10:35:19 PM PDT by catnipman

Watters' World 4/4/20 FULL SHOW | Trump Breaking News April 4, 2020

[relevant part with Hahn starts at 11:46]

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: covid; drug; fda; fud; hahn; hydroxychloroquine; newyork; swag; trial
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I'm not a conspiracy kind of person, but myself and my colleagues have been unable to find ANY information whatsoever on the interwebs about the putative hydroxychloroquine NYC trial other than changing and contradictory information about when this trial supposedly started.

However, watching FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn's interview on the Watter's World show this Saturday night really opened my eyes.

One of the things i've noticed is that guys like Hahn and Fauci sing totally different tunes when they're not on the stage with President Trump, but are off giving interviews by themselves ...

And tonight Hahn said two things (with one omission) that blew my mind and may explain why we're not hearing squat about the putative NYC hydroxychloroquine trial:

1. When Jesse asked Hahn how long it would take to get results from the NYC hydroxychloroquine trial, Hahn said "months",and then let the subject completely drop without saying another word. Obviously, by the end of several months several hundreds of thousands will have died and any "results" would be moot ...

2. Then Jesse asked Hahn about the plasmapheresis "cure", and Hahn rhapsodized about how rapidly everyone was moving on this and how many different research centers were involved and all the work the FDA was doing on this and how the Red Cross was going to do all of that and that Hahn was expecting results really quickly ... totally different attitude and enthusiasm level than with the supposed NYC hydroxychloroquine trial.

3. Finally, Hahn completely failed to mention the new Oracle platform that lets any doctor anywhere in the USA join and input clinical data about experiences with prescribing hydroxychloroquine, where said platform is a tremendousinnovation in quickly collecting and analyzing trial data (https://www.oracle.com/corporate/covid-19-tls-faq.html)

It seems to us that Hahn and the rest are doing everything in their power to suppress the use of a cheap drug no one can make a profit on, and promote an EXTREMELY expensive process that's not scalable and will likely cost tens of thousands of dollars per dose ... so it looks to us that they're: 1.) trying to screw President Trump, 2.) suppress hydroxychloroquine because it was "not invented here", 3.) suppress hydroxychloroquine because there's no profit to be made, and 4.) suppress hydroxychloroquine because it's low-tech and not sexy like plasmapheresis

Someone like the "Tucker Carlson Show" or the "Hannity Show" needs to investigate whether the putative hydroxychloroquinetrial NYC trial is really happening and when will there be results, and who is responsible if the whole thing is a sham or set up to fail or not produce timely results ...

1 posted on 04/04/2020 10:35:19 PM PDT by catnipman
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To: catnipman

hcq fda trials bkmk


2 posted on 04/04/2020 10:43:22 PM PDT by SteveH (intentionally blank)
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To: catnipman

Hahn is a world class do-nothing bureaucrat.


3 posted on 04/04/2020 11:04:22 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (Guide me, O thou great redeemer, pilgrim through this barren land.)
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To: catnipman

Hahn is a world class do-nothing bureaucrat.


4 posted on 04/04/2020 11:04:57 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (Guide me, O thou great redeemer, pilgrim through this barren land.)
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To: catnipman

Seems like they’re all trying to out-scientific everyone else. They can’t say it enough, hydroxychloroquine efficacy is ANECDOTAL I TELL YA!!
Do they get some sort of reward from a medical society for being so fanatical about the scientific method?

I can go to a nutritionist, an acupuncturist, a medicine man, a granny witch, an herbalist, a chiropractor or an abortionist, but I shouldn’t be allowed to take this one unproven remedy because it might not work?

It’s between me and my doctor! My body my health! Isn’t that in the lefty hymn book?


5 posted on 04/04/2020 11:10:54 PM PDT by Buttons12 ( Ready to move on and give the Dems Covfefe-'20!)
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To: catnipman

[[and promote an EXTREMELY expensive process that’s not scalable and will likely cost tens of thousands of dollars per dose]]

It’s pretty sick when our government has so much of OUR money that they can’t budget and have to create ways to spend it on more expensive stuff to enrich others who will then vote for them-

Talk about corrupt-


6 posted on 04/04/2020 11:17:04 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Buttons12

[[Seems like they’re all trying to out-scientific everyone else.]]

While great Americans who built this coutnry with the sweat of their brow drop dead from a virus that coudl be stopped in it’s tracks by a very cheap drug!


7 posted on 04/04/2020 11:18:25 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: catnipman

What about the HCQ test run by UMN? I think they started well before NY and IIRC they had a preliminary check date 21 April. And there are several other studies on HCQ being run in many other countries. One idiotic administrator is not enough to stop them all.


8 posted on 04/04/2020 11:19:34 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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FDA Commissioner Hahn says results will take "months"

Even if the patients recover in days?

Get on the ball bureaucRATs.

9 posted on 04/04/2020 11:23:03 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (We need to reach across the aisle, extend a hand...And slap the crap out of them)
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There are at least 4 trials starting in New York studying Hydroxychloroquine to treat the Coronavirus. They all seem to still be in the recruitment phase

ClinicalTrials.gov (COVID-19)

10 posted on 04/04/2020 11:41:30 PM PDT by Mozzafiato
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To: SteveH

Bureaucrats doing what bureaucrats gonna do.

They protect their processes above all else and hide behind the word “science.”

They are married to clinical trials not necessarily for the science but because that is what the process is. Those trials are about data and not necessarily about how a drug is supposed to work.. Those trials are about playing the government’s game. In theory it is about efficacy and safety, or at least it is supposed to be.

In this case we have a regime involving two known drugs with known side effects. We have a known (in general) biochemical process that a virus follows. The drugs have a known effect on that process. So why not try it?

The FDA doesn’t care. As long as there is a new, off label use involved, they approach this as is the drug were experimental, as if they had never been approved in the first place. Oh sure, they may allow that off label use. But as far as the bureaucrats are concerned, until you pass their sacred process, that off label use is purely “cowboy.”

And moving the Fauci’s of the world off of that view requires what the regulations says it requires and nothing less will do. Trials must be done, months and years must pass. That is the way.


11 posted on 04/04/2020 11:50:20 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: catnipman

L8r


12 posted on 04/05/2020 12:00:22 AM PDT by preacher ( Journalism no longer reports news, they use news to shape our society.)
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To: ScaniaBoy

“One idiotic administrator is not enough to stop them all.”

Maybe not ... but President Trump keeps referring to the NYC trial nearly every day and indicates he expects results in a few days that he can announce,not months ... there is zero information about this supposed trial on the internet other than conflicting reports of when it supposedly started ... zero about which institutions are supposedly participating, what that treatment protocols are, who the participating doctors are, who is in charge, etc. ... it looks to me like the FDA may be sand-bagging President Trump ...


13 posted on 04/05/2020 12:36:36 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman; Governor Dinwiddie
"It seems to us that Hahn and the rest are doing everything in their power to suppress the use of a cheap drug no one can make a profit on, and promote an EXTREMELY expensive process that's not scalable and will likely cost tens of thousands of dollars per dose"

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same old .... same old

14 posted on 04/05/2020 12:48:53 AM PDT by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it unusual...)
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To: Buttons12
I can go to a nutritionist, an acupuncturist, a medicine man, a granny witch, an herbalist, a chiropractor or an abortionist, but I shouldn’t be allowed to take this one unproven remedy because it might not work? It’s between me and my doctor! My body my health! Isn’t that in the lefty hymn book?

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Right on .....

15 posted on 04/05/2020 12:51:00 AM PDT by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it unusual...)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER; catnipman
FDA Commissioner Hahn says results will take "months"
Lies, fake news, distorted reporting call it what you want but that is not what he said.

Knock off this kind of lying bullshit! It does nobody any good.

PERIOD!

16 posted on 04/05/2020 12:58:09 AM PDT by lewislynn (STOP SUPPORTING CHINA AND ANTI-AMERICAN GLOBALISTS! DO IT NOW!)
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To: catnipman

we don’t need a master’s thesis

give anyone/me or any good data analytics person the results in a file format of their choice and we/I can give you results in two to three days-might not be 75 pages long but it will give you the results-ought to tell Hahn he doesn’t have a job or pay like the rest of us and he would have the results in a couple of weeks


17 posted on 04/05/2020 1:05:12 AM PDT by TECTopcat (e)
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To: catnipman

Right to try?


18 posted on 04/05/2020 2:45:28 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.for corruptiion)
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To: Bob434

If you want some insight into priorities at the CDC, see my post here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3831688/posts?page=32#32


19 posted on 04/05/2020 2:53:13 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: lewislynn

Jesse Waters really dropped the ball.


20 posted on 04/05/2020 2:54:13 AM PDT by nbenyo
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