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Even When Optimists Are Right (HYPOTHETICALLY) — The Doomsayers Always Win
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | March 30, 2020 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 03/30/2020 1:42:42 PM PDT by Kaslin

RUSH: I just have one more thing to say about models. It’s undeniably true, and it’s one of the things that frustrates me about them. The doomsayers always win. Do you realize this? The doomsayers always win in a psychological sense. “What do you mean, Rush?” Well, let me explain it to you. I’m glad you asked.

If it’s bad — if it is as bad as they say — they will say, “I warned you. I told you it was going to be 100,000 dead, 200,000 dead. I told you!” If it isn’t as bad as they say, if it doesn’t end up being as bad as they predict, they then say, “It’s only because we warned you to do what was necessary to avoid the threat.”

They are never wrong.

The doomsayers are never wrong; they always win. They’ve got an answer for everything. The realists, like me… I’m the mayor of Realville. I am Mr. Literal. This program is Realville. I am the mayor, governor, president, whatever. I’m an optimist. I can’t help it. I have the optimist gene. We never win up against the doomsayers.

If the realists and the optimists are wrong, then what are we?

We are uncaring murderers or worse.

We are people with no compassion if we are wrong when we say, “It ain’t gonna be that bad, folks. Get a grip!” If the realists and optimists like me are right, we still endangered lives with the recklessness of our prediction, and were saved only by those who knew their data was false and scared them into acting…

If I were to come along and say… This is a HYPOTHETICAL capital H, capital Y, capital everything, HYPOTHETICAL. If I were to say today, “This shutdown is not necessary…” I am not saying it, but if I were… I’m giving you a HYPOTHETICAL example. If I were to tell you that I don’t think anything we’re doing here is as drastically necessary…?

If that turned out to be right, the doomsayers would still say that I was reckless and that I endangered lives and that lives were saved only by the doomsayers who warned everybody not to listen to the optimists, and that’s why modelers… I don’t care whether it’s health models, whether it’s climate models, economic models. They always play the doom card.

They always play the worst-case-scenario card, and they never lose. The people who lose are those who’ve had their livelihoods ruined because of the doomsayers. But, boy, you contradict the doomsayers and say, “I don’t think it’s this bad. I don’t think a hundred thousand, 200,000 people are gonna die.”

(angrily) “Who are you to dispute Dr. Fauci? Who are you! What do you mean?” “Well, I’m an eternal optimist, and I just don’t believe…” “Well, that’s recklessly…” So you can’t say it. The optimist and the realist have to shut up, ceding the argument to the doomsayers, and that’s where we are here, and that’s what I don’t like about this.

The doomsayers are ruling the roost, and who’s to say that they’re right? They don’t know! All they’ve got are their computer models and their media-biased headlines to scare the hell out of everybody. They could be right, but what if they’re wrong? Well, that’s the thing. They never are.

They will get credit for having warned everybody in advance. The fact that the economy’s been shellacked and destroyed? “Ah, an insignificant byproduct to the saving of lives.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; transcript

1 posted on 03/30/2020 1:42:42 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

More people than that are going to die of they tank our economy. People somehow think “the economy” is something abstract and just on paper, but it’s actually where we get our money...and hence, food and shelter ...fand shutting it down means shutting those down too.


2 posted on 03/30/2020 1:49:49 PM PDT by livius
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To: Kaslin
“No matter how cynical you get, it is impossible to keep up.”

― Lily Tomlin.

3 posted on 03/30/2020 1:50:47 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrats' John Dean])
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To: Kaslin

I’m an eternal optimist too. It’s a blessing...and a curse.


4 posted on 03/30/2020 1:57:43 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Jerry...Jerry...Jerry...)
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To: Kaslin

“about models.”

When BJ Clintoon heard about these ‘models’ he said that he wants to check them out!


5 posted on 03/30/2020 2:11:11 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise
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To: Kaslin

No, the doomsayers will not win. God will be the winner!


6 posted on 03/30/2020 2:12:24 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Kaslin

FEARbros: this is why no one on this board should help the FEARbros propagate their posts.


7 posted on 03/30/2020 2:20:23 PM PDT by Calif Conservative (A)
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To: Kaslin

Within the past month, there was a ‘respected’ medical professional, who ‘guaranteed’(!) that there would be a MILLION!!! Wuhan (he did not call it that) DEATHS in the USofA within 9 months. If the death toll is less than a third of his prediction, what is the penalty for his failure of a guaranteed prediction???

Just like the pollsters of 2016 and other creatures of the nomenklatura, NOTHING! Yet in the next crisis, there will be the same MSM vidiots waiting for his prognostication! Aaarrrgggghhhhh!


8 posted on 03/30/2020 2:29:05 PM PDT by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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To: Kaslin

Well it’s true. The doomers have the easiest argument in the world to make, to counter anyone saying the world overreacted. I’ve already seen them saying it, that it’s because of the over-reaction that the numbers of infected and deaths are way below the earlier predictions. Heads they win, tails we lose.


9 posted on 03/30/2020 2:29:54 PM PDT by KobraKai
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In a game of Lying, Leftists always win.

Its because they so easily move on to murder....

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10 posted on 03/30/2020 2:45:28 PM PDT by elbook
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To: Kaslin

Sometimes it’s better to be that doomsayer. It all comes down to optimism versus pessimism and which one is happier. One way to look at it is this:

For anything to go wrong for an optimist, they are downtrodden. For anything to go right for a pessimist they are pleasantly surprised. Which one is more often happy?

rwood


11 posted on 03/30/2020 2:46:23 PM PDT by Redwood71
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To: SES1066
Within the past month, there was a ‘respected’ medical professional, who ‘guaranteed’(!) that there would be a MILLION!!!

OK, I found the source of this 'million deaths'

It was one of the heads of CMS in the Obama Administration, tweeting about nameless experts and a time frame of 12+ months ...

Andy Slavitt @ 🏡@ASlavitt
· Mar 12
Currently experts expect over 1 million deaths in the U.S. since the virus was not contained & we cannot even test for it.

This will be recorded as a major preventable public health disaster. I will try to relate what I learned from a long day of calls about what is happening.

My error in that he was not making a guarantee and I'm uncertain about his time frame. Nick Nolte & Breitbart was the immediate source of this but look at the responses to this tweet - Schiff & Murphy chiming in here!

12 posted on 03/30/2020 2:50:09 PM PDT by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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To: Calif Conservative

To repeat: Media/Social Media-promoted hysteria porn is extremely addictive ... extremely. It causes normally rational Americans to be unable to consider any perspective of concern (e.g., the damage to our Republic and to our economy caused by the “cure”) other than health ... and there are, in fact, other legitimate concerns that must be considered.


13 posted on 03/30/2020 2:50:27 PM PDT by glennaro
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To: Kaslin

Like the tale of the guy selling elephant repellent. No elephants, you say? See how well it works!


14 posted on 03/30/2020 2:52:00 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: Redwood71
Sometimes it’s better to be that doomsayer. It all comes down to optimism versus pessimism and which one is happier. One way to look at it is this:

For anything to go wrong for an optimist, they are downtrodden. For anything to go right for a pessimist they are pleasantly surprised. Which one is more often happy?

Well, if the optimist always prepares for the worst while always hoping for the best...

15 posted on 03/30/2020 3:24:12 PM PDT by rdb3 (Gilmour, WRIGHT, Waters, Mason)
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To: Redwood71

I’ll take hopeful optimist any day everyday, 7 days a week, causing people undue worry is just perverted and sick [no finger-pointing at you, rwood] - more bad character traits of the left.


16 posted on 03/30/2020 3:38:21 PM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: BrandtMichaels

Constant doomage wears on you psychologically. Being a hopeful optimist even in dire conditions is helpful and adaptive to get you through the day. The old saying if you’re going through hell....keep going.


17 posted on 03/30/2020 3:50:36 PM PDT by xp38
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To: xp38

That’s a good one, I’m gonna have to remember that saying.


18 posted on 03/30/2020 5:54:38 PM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: BrandtMichaels

“...causing people undue worry is just perverted and sick..”

I studied the article. Bad part is you”re right. But that’s what our society has turned into. Nobody looks for what is right, just what “could” go wrong. A lot of our thought process has been directed by polls, correct or not, honest or not, and a series of guesses from “experts” that claim numbers or situations that hardly ever happen but they figure out plan “B’ to make it sound like they were omnipotent and they have the answer to everything including the last 5 digits of pi. Rush. in the article was too nice on these self identified legends in their own minds.

But we’ve been taught to appreciate mediocrity and compromise....literally with everything. And there is no winner or loser anymore...just participation. An example is the 2016 election. Hillary Clinton won 48.2 percent of the total popular vote to Donald Trump’s 46.1 percent. If they were that good, then why didn’t either of them get more than 50%? That’s only half of the vote. If that’s the case why does it take a required 2/3 vote to settle things in congress, especially to overrule their president, if it takes far less than half of the vote of the people to elect the person who determines if their work is sound and they are trying to over rule?

It isn’t a matter of optimism, my entry on that was in levity. It’s a matter of just how dumb downed the public has become. And they think they’re smart while they are being herded into the corral for shearing. People have no optimism or pessimism, they aren’t allowed. That constitutes the use of reason. No chance. And that, in my mind, isn’t funny....it’s sad. Both that the public does it and, also, that the leaders get away with it.

rwood


19 posted on 03/30/2020 9:08:58 PM PDT by Redwood71
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