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The Marine Corps plans to get rid of its tanks and shrink its force to take on China
businessinsider. ^ | 3/24/2020 | Jeff Schogol, Task & Purpose 16 hours ago

Posted on 03/24/2020 10:46:40 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19

The commandant of the Marine Corps is pushing an ambitious plan to shrink the Corps and turn it into a more mobile fighting force. Part of that plan is a reduction in manpower, but the service's top officer also wants to cut a number of other units, including all of the Corps' tank battalions.

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KEYWORDS: abrams; marines; usmc; war
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To: Spaceman61

I disagree, but you will see one actual manned vehicle directing several unmanned ones. You will also increasingly see manned armored vehicles with unmanned turrets. The T-14 Armata and the German Lynx/Puma heavy IFVs are two examples of the way things are going.


21 posted on 03/24/2020 11:48:35 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
They know their deployments and missions the best, and when’s the last time Marines did missions with tanks?

Just take me now Lord. Take me now.

22 posted on 03/24/2020 11:48:59 PM PDT by onona
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To: LukeL

Infantry division of the Navy my ass, a Marines job is to kill the enemy with bullets, and when you run out of bullets you close with bayonets and a Ka-Bar.

That was the Old Corps I was trained and deployed in.
Never did more than 6 weeks aboard a ship, the rest of it was in a place with nothing but red mud.


23 posted on 03/24/2020 11:49:17 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: RomanSoldier19

How about converting the V-22 into a flying tank?


24 posted on 03/24/2020 11:53:44 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: LukeL; longhorn too

I suspect part of the problem is that the US doesn’t currently have a light tank/tank destroyer solution (which the US Army is actually presently looking for) and the Abrams isn’t actually all that air- or sea-mobile as modern versions of it are **74 tons**. Getting the M1A2C/D to the beach is going to consume a lot of sea or airlift that could be used for more vehicles and troops.


25 posted on 03/24/2020 11:54:25 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: SanchoP

The rallying cry:

“THESE ARE THE BASTARDS WHO MADE US RUN OUT OF TP!”


26 posted on 03/24/2020 11:56:01 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: CivilWarBrewing

That is an actual program, but they’re scaling that back. One problem is that while it can be made into somewhat of a gunship, there are some major issues with the MV-22 in that role. Starting with the biiig nacelles on each side of the craft in vertical lift mode causing blind spots.

We’d be better off making our own Hind counterpart - and we probably should have. Those things are fearsome.


27 posted on 03/24/2020 11:57:07 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

WWCS (What Would Chesty Say)? I can’t repeat it here.


28 posted on 03/24/2020 11:57:32 PM PDT by NTHockey (R yRules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: RomanSoldier19

The YouTuber named Matsimus, a former-British-Army-and-current-Canadian-Forces combat veteran, has posted this video about the same topic. It contains more information about the related cuts and rationale behind them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeNzt-7ZmT8


29 posted on 03/25/2020 12:00:16 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: 5th MEB

So, what did the Old Corps do when it ran into armored enemies that your bullets won’t do anything to but annoy and you’re out of naval gunfire range? :P


30 posted on 03/25/2020 12:05:03 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Marines or regular army?


31 posted on 03/25/2020 12:05:25 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: NTHockey

IIRC, a lot of the actions Chesty fought in in the Pacific had the Marines with, um, NO tanks.


32 posted on 03/25/2020 12:05:47 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: onona

Its a question not a statement.

I didn’t think they heavily relied on them and used them frequently.

Cripes settle down. Take a walk.


33 posted on 03/25/2020 12:06:28 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Marines. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra4K6B2vC7U


34 posted on 03/25/2020 12:06:31 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

I see what you did there.


35 posted on 03/25/2020 12:08:39 AM PDT by MurrietaMadman
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To: MurrietaMadman

-shrug- It’s not a new idea, comedic or otherwise.


36 posted on 03/25/2020 12:09:16 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: JustaTech

Like in the movie Aliens. Colonial Marines. “Game over, man!”


37 posted on 03/25/2020 12:10:07 AM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: Spktyr

Yeah. I wasn’t laughing.


38 posted on 03/25/2020 12:11:06 AM PDT by MurrietaMadman
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To: Spktyr

Interesting. Anyone kind of have an idea what percentage of their missions in the recent past, last 20+ years, have used tanks? My initial thoughts was a non-majority amount.


39 posted on 03/25/2020 12:11:42 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Mark17

They can’t invade Taiwan because Taiwan is too close for the mainland to have any hope of blocking their nuclear retaliation.

It would cost the Chinese Communists Shanghai and the area around it at a minimum.


40 posted on 03/25/2020 12:17:02 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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