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Is a Once in a Century Fiasco Befalling the United States?
American Thinker ^ | March 24, 2020 | Steve McCann

Posted on 03/24/2020 6:20:03 AM PDT by Kaslin

The first pandemic of the 21st Century took place in 2009. It was commonly referred to as the “Swine Flu” or H1N1. It was notable for its rapid global spread which was facilitated by an unusually high degree of viral contagiousness and was most lethal in individuals affected by chronic disease or other underlying conditions.

The Centers for Disease Control has estimated that in the United States there were 60.8 million cases, 274,300 hospitalizations and up to 18,300 deaths due to the virus. Additionally, CDC estimated that 360,000 people worldwide died of the virus infection.

The previous global pandemic took place in 1968-69. It was a flu virus (H3N2) often referred to as Hong Kong Flu although it originated in China. Like Chinese Coronavirus it too took an unusual toll on the elderly with underlying health Issues. The CDC estimates that over 1 million people throughout the world and over 100,000 in the United States died from the virus.

During the entirety of these two pandemics there was no overwrought national panic, no massive government spending and bailouts or state-wide shutdowns. Nor was the mainstream media fanning the flames of panic by breathlessly reporting any and all worse case theoretical scenarios as well as maliciously fabricating headlines. In both pandemics the opposition party, the Democrats (the Hong Kong Flu) and the Republicans (the Swine Flu), did not aid and abet the media or gratuitously criticize the efforts of the Nixon or Obama Administrations.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; pandemic; tds
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To: tatown

Did anyone follow up on that? Probably not given the lack of any TrumpGotcha content such a follow up should have.


21 posted on 03/24/2020 6:59:48 AM PDT by John W (Trump/Pence 2020)
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To: rb22982

Let’s chat about NYC in 2 weeks.

I’ll be thrilled if widespread use of HQ+Zpac turns the tide.


22 posted on 03/24/2020 7:01:07 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: brookwood

Yeah, the researcher from stanford said the actual estimated range at the time of the study was 0.025% death rate to 0.65%, but increased the range to 0.05% to 1% due to the fact that there could be additional deaths as time went on.


23 posted on 03/24/2020 7:02:20 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: GailA

One interesting thing about the 1918 pandemic is that it hit healthy young adults the hardest.

Typically, pandemics kill the weakest. 11918 wiped out the very group that would normally be able to reproduce and revitalize the economy.

The technical reasons are a bit beyond me, it had to do with the fact that the healthier the immune system the more it overreacted.

So its effect in economic and population terms was vastly wors than anything before or since


24 posted on 03/24/2020 7:03:40 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca. Deport all illegals. Abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF,.)
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To: Alberta's Child

I once rode into Manhattan under the Hudson and then around Manhattan on subways. Packed like sardines standing up, bumping into dozens, breathing all their exhaled air.

Never again. I don’t think you could devise a better CV spreading machine. (CV lasts for days on surfaces, and up to 3 hours floating in the air in closed spaces.

High-rise elevators are also up there as optimal spreading chambers.


25 posted on 03/24/2020 7:04:00 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Again, none of these states are actively randomly testing or looking at antibody. The confirmed death rate is # confirmed deaths / # of confirmed cases, but in reality the calculation will be # deaths (close to confirmed) / (# confirmed cases + # of mild cases never tested + # of assymptomatic cases didn’t even know they had something). The last 2 groups are huge, and likely many times larger than the first. They can actually test this with antibody tests after all is said and done, and it’s why the Swine flu’s estimated death rate was revised down from over 1% to 0.02%.


26 posted on 03/24/2020 7:07:12 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: Hojczyk

Stupid “old people” you got there in Florida


27 posted on 03/24/2020 7:12:43 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Trump is as good a dictator as he is a racist.....)
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To: John W

No, the press was terrified by the news. lol


28 posted on 03/24/2020 7:15:40 AM PDT by tatown
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To: BillyCuccio

Agreed, but fear sells and if it takes down Trump, even better. Who needs the Paris accord to cut emissions by 10%? Just have non-stop fear porn on a virus and countries will do it by 40-50%!


29 posted on 03/24/2020 7:16:52 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: All

Most of America counties are virus free.

Why can’t my county open? Put up sign on hwys leading into county: “Virus free county...only residents allowed”


30 posted on 03/24/2020 7:17:47 AM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: Kaslin

If this is a disaster I am grateful to have Trump at the helm instead of the coughing crook.


31 posted on 03/24/2020 7:20:44 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: tatown; rb22982

We’re at 2 deaths per million pop. Italy is over 100.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


32 posted on 03/24/2020 7:42:04 AM PDT by lodi90 (Flubro)
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To: brookwood

Don’t find anything about a 9th death. But here is a listing of
several stories about cruise ships and the illnesses on some of them.

https://www.ship-technology.com/news/covid-19-diamond-princess-cruise-ship-eighth-death/


33 posted on 03/24/2020 7:44:55 AM PDT by deport
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To: ncpatriot

Why can’t my county open? Put up sign on hwys leading into county: “Virus free county...only residents allowed”

********

I doubt the county owns the ROW that the roadways are located on.
Especially Federal/State hwys.


34 posted on 03/24/2020 7:50:16 AM PDT by deport
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To: RedStateRocker

True, it was unusual, I belong to the group who are hardest hit by the CORONAVIRUS. 6 Autommunes. I’ve always been a semi prepper where food is concerned. I’ve gone hungry to often so y 2 young sons could eat. Getting child support back then was hard, harder still if they were Military. I wasn’t staying with a man who abused my eldest, and had tried to our newborn for having Colic. My 4 yr old HS education was already obsolete. Waited tables for $1.50 a hr and lousy tips. Factory job at $3.50 was no better, Peanut Farmer era.


35 posted on 03/24/2020 7:51:01 AM PDT by GailA (I'm a Trump Girl)
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To: Travis McGee

Have you ever tried to ride from Penn station to Queens at 5pm...only Tokyo would rival the amount of human packing. I was literally spooning the poor woman in front of me and had nuts to butts just like the Army with the guy behind me, no one even blinked about the close contact every one just packs in personal space ha forget about it. In the summer there’s no ac in the stations I was in NYC for 2 weeks in Jan , 2 weeks in Jul and again for 2 weeks in November. July was miserable in the subways. Winter is warm ish but by no means warm. They will have a million cases by the time they finally shut down the system.


36 posted on 03/24/2020 8:51:51 AM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici")
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To: Travis McGee

Half the dead are people who weren’t on the list of tested. So his argument is moot.

We simply have no idea how many people are actually positive, and we have no idea how many of those will actually die, and whether the people who are dying are on the list or not.

We could be missing dead people (more unlikely), and we definitely are missing a whole lot of people who are asymptomatic or have minor symptoms that don’t look like what people are looking for.


37 posted on 03/24/2020 9:25:20 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: phs3

He does not have enough actual information to make an informed guess.

It seems pretty clear that there were a lot of people in New York City who were infected, and probably spread it on the subways.


38 posted on 03/24/2020 9:27:40 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: JD_UTDallas
If I had to use public transportation, or stand in a line or crowd anywhere, I'd rather make my own N-95 mask than just do without.

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39 posted on 03/24/2020 9:50:57 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Kaslin

bump


40 posted on 03/24/2020 2:09:10 PM PDT by foreverfree
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