Do it post haste. Or stat for you MD types.
Pelosi is tearing down this country and tearing up our livelihoods and our life savings...
Agree but how would that support further Agenda 21 and the removal of our God given rights?
How dare anyone speak common sense?
Oh yeah, there’s no plan on when to end it, or how to even gauge metrics that would signal it’s time to end.
My question is: What are they going to do when the looters start rolling through the major urban areas? I’m guessing we’re only a week from that at this point.
Once those blue state governors get a taste of having their own army to order around, I’m going to imagine it will take quite a bit to shake them of their newly discovered toy.
Scott is right on the money. What is happening in this country is pure madness. Isolate the vulnerable, put money in hospitals and medicine (not Planned Parenthood), put the country back to work, reopen schools.
Celebrating by staying in a local hotel and getting a meal from a local restaurant will go a long way from our hospitality industry friends. They are in excruciating pain.
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Amen. A viable treatment (may not work for everyone) is out there. But just sitting back waiting to be infected is not going to work. There are some who will, unfortunately, die regardless when they are infected.
Trump said the cure cannot be worse than the disease. There’s no way anyone can guarantee your good health.
Absolutely correct. I saw an article in the WSJ worrying about the non-symptomatic “carriers” and also about how many people are now being revealed to have had it. Well, if it’s non-symptomatic, that means it’s pretty mild, and also that the “herd” is building up immunity. That is, the disease may be communicated to another person, but because most people already have the antibodies from prior infections or vaccination, the virus is limited in the number of people in can spread to in one jump.
So why lament it? That should have been the strategy all along. Isolate the vulnerable if appropriate (and most of the elderly or already ill would have been perfectly willing to self-isolate, as long as they were assured they could get food and care), quarantine people who have active cases, look for treatments and a vaccine, and practice good hygiene.
If people are worried about hospital facilitie ( although ultimately they would be probably less necessary), build field hospitals and quick-train medical technicians. But it probably would never come to that if handled sanely.
And keep going to work, engaging in social activities, going to church, etc., although let people who are nervous stay home for a while. But don’t destroy the economy and all private society to “save” them.
The best vaccine against those causing COVID-19 panic?
Throw USA influenza statistics in their face - every hour, every day.
Make them prove that COVID-19 - in the USA - is more deadly than a bad influenza season.
Bottom Line...
(1) Protect the elderly and the infirm to the best of our ability.
(2) Do not destroy the American economy and our standard of living.
Trump’s over night tweets and retweets indicate that he’s all in for the 15 days. He’s not one to pick an idea or solution and be wedded to it just “because”.
Perhaps someone will define “herd immunity” and just how in the absence of a vaccine it is achieved. However do have a pet peeve. Neither the CDC nor the WHO are releasing the race and detailed underlying medical conditions, medications being taken, vaccination status and habits of those who become infected, go on to become ill, then go into respiratory failure and die. Such detailed categorization while not politically correct, is essential in understanding the population genetics and environmental factors that will dictate how this and any other pandemic plays out. Political correctness is willful self delusion and a very bad trait for scientists.
Cmon man, the solution here is to kill the patient so we no longer have to worry about it’s health.
If you’re going to do a modified herd immunity approach, that is allowing the virus to spread among the less vulnerable groups and sequestering the vulnerable, you might as well shut the hospitals down when they are overwhelmed.
When the hospitals are well over capacity, they will be ineffective and dangerous. The viral loads dumped on hospital workers make them vulnerable population. It does take some time for a normal immune system to effectively respond to virus, and it can be overwhelmed by a high initial load. There are also concerns with re-infections (antibody dependent enhancement).
You will still need health care workers when this is over.
I notice that these “Put America back to work” pieces never come from the angle of businesses I know should be suffering from this.
How about a write-up of a guy whose going to lose his hotel? What about the family with the small restaurant, on the verge of bankruptcy?
Writers producing the Free Traitor agitprop, that this piece is, don’t know any of these kind of people, I guess. The panicked appeal to “civil liberties” is laughable. This is clearly just a “Get my stock portfolio back up” piece.
How about we get the dead into the ground and see a leveling-off of deaths and a control of this thing, first?
If that can’t happen, your going to need to take farming lessons from Mike Bloomberg.
CDC released these figures about the 2017 regular flu season. In 2017, 900,000 people were hospitalized with flu complications and 80,000 died. Not a peep from the government, the media or the medical establishment. The hospitals were not overwhelmed. No cities or states were locked down. It was business as usual and the stock market went up.
Let us find out who is responsible for this ruinous over-reaction for the entire country when fewer than 500 have died in six weeks in America. They are worse than the virus.
There is no such thing as “herd immunity” - only a lack of exposure.
The UK was going to take that approach but realized if they did their hospitals would be overwhelmed. They came to their senses and rejected doing that.
I think the point at which we should start lifting restrictions is when we think the medical system is ready with tests, supplies, and drugs. Also a consideration is that the number of cases at least has stop increasing. I would like to see a definite decrease as a jumping off point, a flattening of the curve.