Posted on 03/22/2020 11:01:30 PM PDT by Vendome
An estimated 80,000 Americans died of flu and its complications last winter, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. This means it was the deadliest season in more than four decades -- since 1976, the date of the first published paper reporting total seasonal flu deaths, said CDC Spokeswoman Kristen Nordlund.
In previous seasons, flu-related deaths have ranged from a low of about 12,000 during the 2011-2012 season to a high of about 56,000 during the 2012-2013.
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Gee, could many of the cases and death been a result of Corona?
Just a quick example of this idiocy from a personal story.
In 2017 I went to the hospital 3 times.
At one point the virus had infected my sinus, lungs and throat.
Felt like someone was pulling a fish hook on my esophagus on the right side.
Then knitting needles were being forced through my eyes, from the inside.
Headache that was mind numbing.
Then my teeth started hurting and I ended up with an abscessed tooth.
Took 3 doctors before I was directed to a dentist who said he could not pull my tooth until the infection went away.
two week later and more antibiotics infection was still there.
Then two more weeks later and antibiotics still had infection.
Dentist said he was comfortable pulling the tooth and felt certain more antibiotics and time would be curative.
Told him “Eff it” Pull it out.
He did and the other symptoms passed in 3 days.
All this from the flu.
The upside is that side of my jaw doesn’t hurt as much from my bruxism. Still hurts but not like it did when that tooth was there.
I had the flu 4 times that season....
Last October I got the flu shot and except for a mild case of whatever in January that didn’t even make me flinch I feel like a champ this season.
Best flu season in 20 years...for me.
Dunno.
I don’t drink that crap but, I many people who do and it may have cost them dearly...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017%E2%80%9318_United_States_flu_season
In January 2018, The Atlantic also noted that the severity of the flu season in the United States may have been increased by a shortage of IV bags in hospitals. The shortage resulted from the Hurricane Maria blackout in Puerto Rico, where a great many medical supplies are manufactured.
And yet, still, out of 45 million flu illnesses that year, if 80,000 died, then the death rate was 0.2%.
In comparison, if the death rate for COVID19 remains at 1.4% in the U.S., then 630,000 people would die. And, if our hospitals are running low on supplies, that death rate may increase, just like Italy's.
No, that doesn't mean the country should be shut down completely. It doesn't mean a $2T stimulus package should be passed. But, come on, COVID19 is worse than influenza.
See post #24 above. There was a shortage of IV bags that year.
Ironically, this year could end up being one of the lowest death count on record for all flus (including CV19) given all the precautions people are taking.
Yeah!
And we shut the country down then too..../s
And yet, still, out of 45 million flu illnesses that year, if 80,000 died, then the death rate was 0.2%.
In comparison, if the death rate for COVID19 remains at 1.4% in the U.S., with the same number of illnesses (45 million), then 630,000 people would die.
Italy has a flu death rate per population 4-6 times ours.
That corona found a home there isn’t surprising
Old
Smokers
Density
Not Europe’s best healthcare ....that would be Switzerland
Has had a competent government of administrators since Il Dulce learned gymnastics the hard way
If this malaria treatment doesn’t work we are in for around 630,000 deaths. I am praying it works.
Romney is self isolating. Lol. Lots of filthy rich are doing the same. Hell, I’d be living in my high desert home with 10,000 acres if I had one.
I can confirm the filthy rich are indeed isolating.
Having money ain’t bad..
I remember the IV bag shortage.
Didn’t we recently discover a bunch of supplies cached away in Puerto Rico? Is that where all the IV bags went?
You are not using comparable numbers. The confirmed death rate (confirmed deaths / confirmed cases) is not the same as the actual death rate (confirmed deaths / (confirmed cases + mild cases + people who get it but show no symptoms)). The 1.4% is the first one, the 0.1% is the second one. The CDR of the flu is higher than 1.4%, for example
The 2017 flu had a death rate of only 0.2% in the U.S. That’s twice as high as the typical 0.1% death rate for the flu.
COVID19 has a 1.3% death rate (currently) in the U.S. That’s 13 times higher than the typical flu. And it’s more than 6 times higher than the 2017 flu.
And, already hospitals are running low on masks, etc. What happens if they run low on ventilators? That’s why Italy’s death rate exploded.
I don't recall it becoming a worldwide or even a national obsession.
Where did you find a CDR higher than 1.4% for the flu?
Been posted on here several times from CDC website is about 10%. Very few people receive a flu test and most never go to a doctor and it’s why their range of deaths and cases of the flu is massively wide. You can also more accurately calculate the death rate with antibody study but we aren’t there yet with covid-19.
I’ve searched but cannot find a 10% confirmed death rate for the flu posted here.
All we have to do is look at Italy. Their death rate jumped when their hospitals were running out of supplies.
I hadn’t heard that story about P.R. Did a search... Yeah, supplies like water bottles and diapers sitting in a warehouse were never distributed.
But P.R. manufacturers make IV bags (if I understand correctly).
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