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1 posted on 03/22/2020 8:28:02 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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QUOTING FAUCI:

"The President is talking about hope for people and it's not an unreasonable thing to hope for people so when you have approved drugs that physicians have the option and a decision between the physician and the patient are you gonna use the drug that someone says from an anecdotal standpoint not completely proven but might have some effect..."

Which is utterly gobbledygook divergent from the facts about the two drugs in discussion.  It is not true that the evidence supporting these two drugs is anecdotal. These two drugs have been shown in scientific studies and peer-reviewed publications to have strong positive effects against COVID19. Period.

But Fauci's words have hidden the truth from you.

Fauci rambled,

"...there are those who lean to the point of giving hope and saying give that person the option of having access to that drug and then you have the other group which is my job as scientist to say my job is to ultimately prove without a doubt that a drug is not only safe but that it actually works."

No. The standard of evidence he is requiring is not his job as a scientist.  It is a wildly inappropriate exaggeration utterly unsuited to the situation, and his description of the facts is utterly misleading. Not to mention it's a word-salad.

In one month's time, there will be hundreds of thousands of cases of COVID19.  There will be many thousands of deaths.  And Fauci is taking the position that he and the US government should not approve Hydroxychloroquine because it might not be safe and might not be effective, based on his smear of high-quality science as mere anecdote.

2 posted on 03/22/2020 8:29:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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Time to extinguish ALL the unconstitutional federal agencies, including and especially the Food and Drug Aministration.


4 posted on 03/22/2020 8:34:43 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If you don't recognize that as sarcasm you are dumber than a bag of hammers.)
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It’s been on the market for seventy years. It’s been approved.


5 posted on 03/22/2020 8:36:32 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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The only way to determine the safety and effectiveness of Hydroxychloroquine for the new coronavirus is through controlled tests.

It is now being used in hospitals with other drugs to save lives, and that will certainly continue. Your doctor is, right now, completely free to prescribe it to you, but it’s unlikely that he will do so until the safe dosage is determined.

For a preventative use, there have been no clinical studies at all, and that puts it a year away at least.


6 posted on 03/22/2020 8:36:50 AM PDT by budj (Combat vet, 2nd of three generations.)
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Fauci is a scientist and wants to run it through the scientific method of viability for proven success. When the situation becomes dire though why not take a guesstimated leap of faith and administer these drugs in the face of life threatening medical illness such as this covid-19 monster.


9 posted on 03/22/2020 8:38:55 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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we're trying to develop de novo drugs

Bottom line right there. New drugs that costs $10k per pill. Please stay away from cheap drugs that have been proven safe.

12 posted on 03/22/2020 8:39:20 AM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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I think they’ll approve 1,000 person trials, like in New York state (where case numbers are exploding).


14 posted on 03/22/2020 8:39:51 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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As soon as they find the scissors to cut through the red tape they made.


16 posted on 03/22/2020 8:41:13 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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I honestly don’t know whether the FDA serves a useful purpose anymore - it appears regularly in news stories as an ossified bureaucracy which exists mostly to slow down medical progress and prevent people from getting better access to their own medical information and making their own decisions on their health.


17 posted on 03/22/2020 8:41:28 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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Fauci wants all Americans to be vaccinated with a cocktail backed by eugenicist Bill Gates.

Off-label usage of well-known and safe drugs is not part of their plan.


18 posted on 03/22/2020 8:42:19 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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Please notice that Dr. Fauci just called the effectiveness of Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin against COVID19 anecdotal.

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Dr. Fauci wouldn’t hesitate for one moment to use this combo if one of his loved ones life was in danger from the virus. You can be certain of that.

Its easy to be clinically detached — until someone close to you is affected.


19 posted on 03/22/2020 8:42:49 AM PDT by Starboard (has so far)
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deep state fauci will fight this
to keep the cures for his family and the
clowns who support him, not mention
he probably has deeply invest(ed) in alternatives.

he should have been fired with his wife years ago.


27 posted on 03/22/2020 8:48:36 AM PDT by Diogenesis ( WWG1WGA)
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Follow the money.
Hydroxycholorquine costs about $20 for one month’s supply. It is a generic drug manufactured by several companies. It has been approved and in use since 1955 for malaria and other diseases. It is unlikely that drug companies will pay for clinical trials to test the efficacy of hydroxycholorquine in view of limited profit potential.
Remdesivir is a proprietary experimental drug developed by one major medical company, Gilead Science. It has not been approved for use at all, but is being clinically tested, apparently sponsored by Gilead Science. Estimated cost for one month’s supply is $1,000. There is a high profit potential if this drug is ultimately approved.

Is it any wonder that the drug industry is trying to slow the use of Hydroxycholoroquine to maintain a market for
remdesivir after it finishes clinical trials?

The FDA has long had a symbiotic relationship with the drug industry, which some might view as incestuous, or worse. It is possible that the FDA is complicit in delaying use of hydroxychloroquine to allow a window of opportunity for the profit from Remdesivir.


29 posted on 03/22/2020 8:51:13 AM PDT by LOC1 (Its the Economy, Stupid !)
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The use of HCQ for covid19 is not approved, but it is not prohibited, either. The FDA wants to PROVE it’s effective before they approve of its use for this off label treatment. But I don’t know of many doctors who will watch their patients die knowing there are drugs that may save their patients’ lives.


30 posted on 03/22/2020 8:52:54 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (A socalist is someone that wants everything you have except your job.)
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This is silly. It is approved. A doctor may prescribe it. It is not approved for treating Covid but that does not mean a doctor may not prescribe it.


35 posted on 03/22/2020 8:56:32 AM PDT by rey
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I wonder how the supply of this medicine would hold out if everyone who just wants it, would get it.


36 posted on 03/22/2020 8:56:47 AM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope.)
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a new protocol seems to be needed, otherwise the existing protocol encourages hoarding and interferes with effective treatment. imho.

Ohio pharmacy board restricts prescriptions for experimental coronavirus treatment drugs
The Columbus Dispatch ^ | Mar 21, 2020 | Lucas Sullivan
Posted on 3/22/2020, 8:26:23 AM by McGruff

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3827061/posts


38 posted on 03/22/2020 8:59:52 AM PDT by SteveH (intentionally blank)
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Doctors are already allowed to use this for Wuhan Virus patients here in the US. Am I correct?


40 posted on 03/22/2020 9:00:53 AM PDT by willk (A bias news media is not a free press.)
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Big Pharma will not make much money if the most effective treatment involved cheap, a 70 year old, genetic drug.


41 posted on 03/22/2020 9:02:14 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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Waste of time. There’s nothing preventing doctors from prescribing this medicine now if they feel it will help their patients.


49 posted on 03/22/2020 9:04:53 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born, they are excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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