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This is the link to the Monthly Death Statistics of Italy. The question would be are they dramatically higher now.
Un Data Death Statistics ^ | 03.21.2020 | chickensoup

Posted on 03/21/2020 12:02:49 PM PDT by Chickensoup

This is the link to the Monthly Death Statistics of Italy. The question would be are they dramatically higher now.

600-650,000 deaths per year in Italy.

Or is this just a more virulent form of flu?


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This is the link to the Monthly Death Statistics of Italy. The question would be are they dramatically higher now.

600-650,000 deaths per year in Italy.

600-650,000 deaths per year in Italy.

1 posted on 03/21/2020 12:02:49 PM PDT by Chickensoup
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To: Chickensoup
Click on link results:

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2 posted on 03/21/2020 12:05:38 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Chickensoup

That list only shows Åland Islands? I never even heard of them.


3 posted on 03/21/2020 12:09:32 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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picked up results from 2015.

very eyeopening

for US; over 200,000 each month - from ALL causes


4 posted on 03/21/2020 12:17:27 PM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: Chickensoup

Try using the filters

There were about 650,000- ish for 2015

Anywhere from about 47,000- 65,0000 a month

What is it currently ?

Florence Mayor encouraged citizens to Hug a Chinese !


5 posted on 03/21/2020 12:19:49 PM PDT by nevermorelenore ( If My people will pray ....)
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To: Chickensoup; All

It has to be proven but I suspect that of those deaths a large number of them were Chinese workers who came there to work in factories their commie masters were allowed to own by that Itie socialist government. By not identifying them as such, left the general impressions of rapid transmission of what I prefer to call CComHuVi (Chinese Communist Hunan Virus). That promoted this panic of fear of immediate contagion we’re reacting to here.


6 posted on 03/21/2020 12:20:14 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin posting here for the record hoping somebody might read and pass around)
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To: Beowulf9

Use the filter.


7 posted on 03/21/2020 12:53:46 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: Robert DeLong

works for me


8 posted on 03/21/2020 12:57:47 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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[It has to be proven but I suspect that of those deaths a large number of them were Chinese workers who came there to work in factories their commie masters were allowed to own by that Itie socialist government. By not identifying them as such, left the general impressions of rapid transmission of what I prefer to call CComHuVi (Chinese Communist Hunan Virus). That promoted this panic of fear of immediate contagion we’re reacting to here.]


That ties in with what Russian-sponsored websites like Veterans Today are promoting - the theory that the virus is an American weapon designed to exterminate Orientals:

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article177744986.html
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/03/02/postulating-covid-19-a-weapon-against-china/


9 posted on 03/21/2020 1:01:38 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Chickensoup

Does not show results for Italy in 2019 after using the filter and also I tried just advancing with the arrow.


10 posted on 03/21/2020 1:02:25 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Beowulf9

Put your cursor on the down arrow of the country box on left, at Italy check the box

then click apply filters.


11 posted on 03/21/2020 1:05:51 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: Beowulf9

Earliest stats are 2017

if you just go to italy and not use the second lower box but just filter the word italy you will get all they have.


12 posted on 03/21/2020 1:07:17 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: mosesdapoet

“I suspect that of those deaths a large number of them were Chinese workers who came there to work in factories”

Logically, this is not the case. Since the victims were supposedly all old worthless people, they wouldn’t have been working in the factories, so they were not Chinese workers.

But looking at the names and pictures in the obituary section of the local Italian newspapers, several articles regarding which having been posted here on FR, they aren’t Chinese but rather mostly Italians shown in the 10-fold increase in obituaries. So, there is some empirical evidence as well to refute your hypothesis.

The panic is largely from the FluBros who are in denial about this pandemic. The mitigating and prophylactic actions of the governments are largely what is keeping the spread in check and the death rate down. Most places. As long as people do their part the death toll will be low enough for the FluBros to scoff and delude themselves that they were right all along.


13 posted on 03/21/2020 1:40:59 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Is “ Orientals “ racists? Just wondering where we stand with the Word Police


14 posted on 03/21/2020 1:55:38 PM PDT by nevermorelenore ( If My people will pray ....)
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To: calenel

Probably time for a break if you are spending a lot of time reading Italian obituaries.


15 posted on 03/21/2020 2:01:00 PM PDT by lodi90 (Flubro)
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To: Chickensoup

I was letting you know that it was down at that particular time. 8>)


16 posted on 03/21/2020 2:41:54 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: calenel

Check this out it might explain why there were no death reports on Chinese
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3826897/posts#6


17 posted on 03/21/2020 4:00:28 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin posting here for the record hoping somebody might read and pass around)
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That’s as may be, but there certainly were more death reports on Italians. Chinese deaths that are not recorded would only bump up the fatality rate for the Wuhanic Plague. Ten times normal is plenty.

I wonder what they do with the bodies. If I wasn’t shunning European imports I would be avoiding Italian meat products now.


18 posted on 03/21/2020 5:04:00 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant.)
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“Probably time for a break if you are spending a lot of time reading Italian obituaries.”

Probably time for a break if you are spending a lot of time worrying about what I read.

I’ve seen the claim that it’s all Chinese workers dying any number of times. It’s simple to just scan the obits in various articles and videos to confirm or refute. Took less than a minute.


19 posted on 03/21/2020 5:14:22 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant.)
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8130479/99-patients-killed-coronavirus-Italy-existing-illnesses-study-finds.html


This article suggests that the Wuhan Coronavirus appears to hit an almost entirely different cross-section of people than the flu.

The pre-existing condition reported here is predominantly having *ever had* high blood pressure.


20 posted on 03/21/2020 6:30:22 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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