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This is a cold! Is Western Civilization going to collapse over this?
American Thinker ^ | 03/21/2020 | Mike Konrad

Posted on 03/21/2020 7:36:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

A variation on the theme of the cold -- a cold with an attitude.  Is Western civilization going to collapse over a cold?

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As Newsweek stated a few months earlier: 

[A] cold can also have more severe symptoms in the very young and the very old. Older people are more likely to develop a more serious infection compared with adults or older children. And people who smoke -- or who are exposed to second-hand smoke -- are also more likely to get a cold and have more severe symptoms.

Another group of people who are more severely affected by infection with cold-causing viruses are people with an existing lung condition. They can include people with asthma, cystic fibrosis or chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD). Infection with a virus that causes inflammation of the airways can make breathing much harder. People with COPD who catch a mild cold virus are also at risk of developing a bacterial infection. – Newsweek, “Why the Common Cold can Sometimes be Deadly

That is what we are experiencing.

Is the death rate from the coronavirus higher in the very old? So is the death rate from colds (see above). Yet, we see that many people are asymptomatic.

The biggest breakdown yet of novel coronavirus cases suggests that 80% are mild. Some patients never show symptoms. -- Business Insider

Many do not show symptoms?! Of course not! Everyone has had colds in their lives, and we acquire immunity from them. Those who have already had colds from similar strains of coronavirus will have acquired a degree of immunity. Hence, the rather high 80% of people who do not show serious symptoms.

Coronaviruses are an extremely common cause of colds and other upper respiratory infections. -- Harvard Health 


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cold; coronavirus; westerncivilization
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1 posted on 03/21/2020 7:36:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
So why the deaths?

However, infection with rhinovirus or one of the other viruses responsible for common cold symptoms can be serious in some people. Complications from a cold can cause serious illnesses and, yes, even death – particularly in people who have a weak immune system. -- The Conversation

The news is not actually reporting that a lot of these victims have secondary conditions. USA Today ran this headline:

Spanish soccer coach for Atletico Portada Alta dies from coronavirus at age 21 -- USA Today

Only when one read the story did one find out that…

A 21-year-old youth soccer coach in Spain died Sunday from coronavirus while also battling leukemia.

Leukemia?!  Leukemia affects the immune system, and the treatment also savages immunity. What killed this soccer couch was leukemia. His body was set up to die from any infection.

2 posted on 03/21/2020 7:37:02 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

Blasphemer.


3 posted on 03/21/2020 7:37:07 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: SeekAndFind

4 posted on 03/21/2020 7:38:19 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: crusty old prospector

See Post #4


5 posted on 03/21/2020 7:38:36 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

From what I gather, the difference is the ventilators required for treatment; if the new cases slowed, there may not be such an issue.

Here in NJ, four people in one family are dead (across a couple of generations); it isn’t a “cold”.


6 posted on 03/21/2020 7:38:42 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: SeekAndFind
Admittedly a very serious cold, one which I am not saying we shouldn't take these precautions.

But there is not need to call out the National Guard for a 2 week nationwide quarantine, or whatever the latest Project Fear talking point is.

7 posted on 03/21/2020 7:39:24 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Me and my homies woulda been stackin' bodies by now- G. Washington.)
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To: SeekAndFind

No.


8 posted on 03/21/2020 7:40:00 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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The local Wallymart had TP this morning... 1 per.


9 posted on 03/21/2020 7:43:04 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: SeekAndFind

80,000 Americans died of the flu during the winter of 2017-2018 and nobody batted an eyelash because were were too busy with RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA “collusion.”

Oh, for the good old days of RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA “collusion.”


10 posted on 03/21/2020 7:43:32 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If you don't recognize that as sarcasm you are dumber than a bag of hammers.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Western Civilization did not collapse with the coming of the Black Death in 1348 and that killed 20,000,000 or more people.

It did, however, cause many serious political, economic and cultural changes in society.

This is not a “cold”. Look at the x-rays from some of the victims. Their lungs are ravaged by this. Some people will barely feel sick, others will recover and be fine, others will die, still others will recover but might have permanent damage.

This is NOT a cold.

Authorities in Rome on Friday announced 5,986 new cases and a record 627 new deaths, raising the totals to 47,021 infections and 4,032 fatalities. In Spain, the death toll rose to 1,002, a highest-ever increase of 235 in 24 hours.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/20/behave-or-face-strict-coronavirus-lockdown-germans-told

The only people I have ever heard of dying of a cold are Soviet premiers. /s


11 posted on 03/21/2020 7:43:41 AM PDT by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I remember at my junior high in the 70’s when the flu would race through. It was devastating. Half the school would get it in a two-day period. No one would die but it was much more contagious than this virus.


12 posted on 03/21/2020 7:44:25 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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National quarantine isn’t going to happen....and the guard is helping where needed even helping to pack food box’s. Also needed to stand by and fill in the gap for essential services if people are out sick with the virus.


13 posted on 03/21/2020 7:45:37 AM PDT by caww
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To: kearnyirish2
"Here in NJ, four people in one family are dead (across a couple of generations); it isn’t a “cold”

I'll go out on a limb that there's more to this NJ casualty. I can't imagine what it was but it doesn't appear the WuFlu could be responsible. I'll wait for more.

This ruinous panic is pathetic and won't be tolerated much longer. US sentiment is moving that way.

14 posted on 03/21/2020 7:45:54 AM PDT by chiller (Davey Crockett said: "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead." I'm goin' ahead.)
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To: SeekAndFind

As far as I can tell the author of this piece has no medical credentials. Are you going to listen to some fool on the internet or to the MDs from the CDC and your state health deparments?


15 posted on 03/21/2020 7:46:46 AM PDT by RetiredScientist
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

https://canadafreepress.com/article/the-plan-for-the-internal-destruction-of-the-usa-was-way-too-easy


16 posted on 03/21/2020 7:47:11 AM PDT by nevermorelenore ( If My people will pray ....)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“80,000 Americans died of the flu during the winter of 2017-2018 and nobody batted an eyelash because were were too busy with RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA “collusion.””

True. But then again Italy has more than 4,000 dead already and that is in, what, less than 3 or 4 weeks? The flu doesn’t make Italy’s medical system buckle. They don’t need the army to come in and help move bodies because morgues are overwhelmed during flu season.

It’s theoretically possible we could get a handle on this and that far fewer than 80,000 people will die of the virus. Then again, we might not get a handle on it, and 800,000 or a 1,000,000 or even more could die. This is real. Thank God we’re in America where we at least has something of a fighting chance with our great medical system and industry and a President like Trump.


17 posted on 03/21/2020 7:50:34 AM PDT by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“80,000 Americans died of the flu during the winter of 2017-2018 and nobody batted an eyelash...”

Source of that number? Thx.

Of those that died, what percentage died from the flu ONLY, with no comorbidity factors?

The NJ family that got hit had an old Grandma and they look mostly all overweight. Were those that died smokers?


18 posted on 03/21/2020 7:52:02 AM PDT by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and so few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: caww

“National quarantine isn’t going to happen”

I hope not. But the Rat/Rino Governors are going further and further. This put puts a lot of pressure on Trump to escalate especially in an election year.


19 posted on 03/21/2020 7:52:09 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: kearnyirish2
In 1916, New York City experienced the first large epidemic of polio, with over 9,000 cases and 2,343 deaths. The 1916 toll nationwide was 27,000 cases and 6,000 deaths. Epidemics worsened during the century: in 1952, a record 57,628 cases of polio were reported in the United States.

Polio (also called infantile paralysis) was most often associated with children, but it affected teens and grown-ups as well. Between 1949 and 1954, 35 percent of those who contracted polio were adults.

The first known polio outbreak in the United States was in Vermont in 1894. The last cases of wild (naturally occurring) polio in the United States were in 1979 in four states, among Amish residents who had refused vaccination.


20 posted on 03/21/2020 7:52:47 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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