Posted on 03/20/2020 12:16:09 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Dr Anthony Fauci has rebuked Donald Trump's claim that anti-malaria drug chloroquine could be a game-changer in the fight against COVID-19.
Dr Facui, who is a member of the White House Coronavirus Task Force, made the claim during an interview with Anderson Cooper on CNN Thursday evening.
'There's no magic drug for coronavirus right now,' the top doctor told Cooper.
Earlier in the day, Trump told media that there had been positive results after doctors trialled chloroquine on COVID-19 patients, and suggested the drug could be a game-changer.
'It's shown very, very encouraging early results. We're going to be able to make that drug available almost immediately. It's been approved,' he said.
However, Dr Fauci said on CNN just a few hours later: 'Let me put it into perspective for the viewers .. there has been anecdotal non-proven data that it [chloroquine] works... but when you have an uncontrolled trial you can never definitely say that it works'.
He repeated his caution on Friday in an interview with Today, saying: 'Even though the information is anecdotal that they may work, we need to prove it so people would get the right drug that's safe and effective.
'What we're saying is these are drugs that have some suggestion that they may work,' he went on, but that controlled trials needed to be done to prove that they are effective.
The University of Minnesota is looking for people who have been in contact with a known positive case of COVID-19 to volunteer for a trial to test Hydroxychloroquine and see if it is effective in preventing people from catching the virus.
They need 1,500 people to take part in the trial and so far have 150.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Why do you post fake news? Fake news is not news, it is fake news.
Someone is trying to gin up a game of lets-you-and-him-fight.
And the DM is their useful idiot.
this is a completely false headline and TOTALLY fake news!
i just watched the press conference and Trump only said that he was hopeful and optimistic that the drug worked, and Fauci said he was fundamentally in agreement with President Trump, that he too was hopeful like the President that hydroxychloroquine was an effective drug, that the drug would be going out for use right away and data would be gathered as the drug was used, and that the ONLY difference was as a scientist he was more cautious about his optimism until he saw more data ...
i’m stunned at the fools commenting on this post who are taking this fake news at face value and advocating that Fauci be fired or even that Fauci has ulterior motives ... I just watched every word of that press conference and Fauci TOTALLY defended President Trump’s optimism and President Trump thanked Fauci for his statement ...
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this is FR now. People read headlines and start screaming in the comment section.
Same with those who are pushing panic over this virus in every thread. I get a lot of members are seniors but goodness...chill a little.
There is a difference between treatment and prevention. The U Minn study appears to be focused on prevention. hydroxychloroquinetrial is a treatment drug.
Thats a REALLY bad headline
Fake news!
I dont get why so many people here are using a tabloid out of the UK as a news source anyway.
“Admittedly only 40 people in the original study, but that’s now called ANECDOTAL when 100% of them apparently got better???”
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Like the old Senate saying goes, a billion dollars here and a billion dollars there and soon you’re up to real money. Likewise, an anecdotal here and an anecdotal there and soon we’re up to significant data. There have been at least three of these small tests (all “successful”) of which I’m aware.
Sadly, there are many physicians and hospitals who are fearful of doing anything “new” until the FDA has officially completed a large study “proving” efficacy. Many people will die before these overly cautious doctors & hospitals stop restricting themselves to “routine”.
“Dr.” Fauci is either an ignorant fool or a lying SOB (my money is on the latter).
There have been THREE small co-hort placebo double-blind tests of chloroquine with reproducible results. That is gold standard science by any HONEST scientists take.
Yes, larger cohort studies need to be done, but there is no question that the drug works.
This propagandist bastard needs to be fired and replaced with a NON POLITICAL scientist.
Fake news! Trump never called it a “miracle drug.” I was listening when he talked about it. He said, in so many words, that he was hopeful, but that it may or may not be a viable treatment.
There is a difference between the medicine standpoint of study and the use of a medication off label which we do everyday. You would be stunned at the number of medications that are used and widely accepted but not approved for that treatment by the FDA. For example, for several years, a medication called seroquel has routinely been used to treat and prevent ICU induced delirium which is an independent predictive factor of mortality in patients over 65 in the ICU setting.
However if you look for for what it is approved for: Schizophrenia, bipolar and adjunct to major depressive disorder. We have compelling results that are understudy and the use of this medication or drugs similar to it are the standard of care now in terms of treatment of delirium in the intensive care setting (Work originally done by Vanderbilt group)
Hydroxycholoroquine is being used with great success for off label use in the treatment of CoVID 19. As an intensivist I am seeing protocols at the moment for early use of this medication should we have a critically ill positive. In combination with azithromycin for my critically ill CovId patients, I will not hesitate to use this combination, and think it would likely be unethical to not use it given the WORLDWIDE publishing supporting that it reduced in duration and severity the disease.
There are rational explanations on a molecular level for why this should (and does work). So please do not show shade over the difference between practical applications of medicine and ivory tower “long term studies” to determine efficacy. I promise if Dr. Fauci were intubated with ARDS and (+) CoVID, he would receive these medications.
“Is there money involved!?!?!?!?!”
There’s money to be made in prolonging the problem. I figure there’s a 90% chance Fauci’s NIH is in bed with big pharma. They don’t want a cure today; they want to spend time, and money they’ll get from Uncle Sam grants, to come up with a vaccine.
We know how efficient government and quasi-government agencies are.
Lower than poop from fish living in the Mindanao Trench.
There is a difference between the medicine standpoint of study and the use of a medication off label which we do everyday. You would be stunned at the number of medications that are used and widely accepted but not approved for that treatment by the FDA. For example, for several years, a medication called seroquel has routinely been used to treat and prevent ICU induced delirium which is an independent predictive factor of mortality in patients over 65 in the ICU setting.
However if you look for for what it is approved for: Schizophrenia, bipolar and adjunct to major depressive disorder. We have compelling results that are understudy and the use of this medication or drugs similar to it are the standard of care now in terms of treatment of delirium in the intensive care setting (Work originally done by Vanderbilt group)
Hydroxycholoroquine is being used with great success for off label use in the treatment of CoVID 19. As an intensivist I am seeing protocols at the moment for early use of this medication should we have a critically ill positive. In combination with azithromycin for my critically ill CovId patients, I will not hesitate to use this combination, and think it would likely be unethical to not use it given the WORLDWIDE publishing supporting that it reduced in duration and severity the disease.
There are rational explanations on a molecular level for why this should (and does work). So please do not show shade over the difference between practical applications of medicine and ivory tower “long term studies” to determine efficacy. I promise if Dr. Fauci were intubated with ARDS and (+) CoVID, he would receive these medications.
well i was wondering for being a guinea pig.
but still..
Speaking of off-label drug uses..... Nalotrexone is a drug effective in treating opioid overdose. It is the time-release form of naloxone. For the last few years autoimmune disease sufferers, such as lupus victims, have been experiencing success with low-dose naltrexone. It has to be diluted by hand, because this use is off-label.
COVID-19’s severely-ill victims are affected by it’s autoimmune effects, brought on by cytokine storms. Chloroquine is used as a treatment for both COVID-19 and lupus. I wonder if low-dose naltrexone would be effective against COVID-19.
C-19’s method of cell entry seems to resemble an opioid’s method of entry.
Dr. Fauci must be sterilized with extreme prejudice!!
And Trump has already implemented “Right to Try” for drugs that haven’t cleared FDA approval for those who are very I’ll. This could probably fall under that criteria.
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