MSNB Calls treatment more Trump overpromise and just happy talk #Coronavirus #COVID-19 has been found in a common anti-malarial drug

msnb.com ^ | 3/19/2020 | Andrea Mitchell

[TECTopcat]

Joe Scarborough comments on the president's latest briefing on the coronavirus outbreak, calling the announcement of using a malaria drug for treatment another "overpromise" from the administration.

[TECTopcat]

agree Sarah, they sometimes can’t hide their enjoyment that the economy is tanking .. and if it doesn’t come back before the election we may get President Biden

[hawkaw]

I must admit this is an interesting way to get the treatment to any doctors and patients to use, if they wish, instead of waiting a long time to run a study. I hope the results over the next week or so show promise.

I don’t think Joe gets how the FDA is letting this drug be used in this fight.

[Dahoser]

These Mensa rejects must realize that the President is just passing along information he received from medical experts.

No, the media's TDS is so extreme that they believe the lies they've concocted about him which include that he disregards science and scientists.

[Zhang Fei]

[Looks harmless on the outside like a street prostitute]

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Zbig was a pretty smart cookie. His daughter appears to have inherited his wife’s brains and his looks.

[TigersEye]

Corporate Media angry that Trump tries to blunt their efforts to panic the herd.

[boxlunch]

The drug is very common and very inexpensive. Bayer is already donating millions of doses

[MadMax, the Grinning Reaper]

Richard “The Dark Prince” Perl and I ripped Brezinski a “new one” at a press conference many years ago. Richard said something and I fed him a question (which would expose Brz as a total ignoramus and incompetent). Perl proceeded to destroy Brz and a lot of State Dept. idiots as well as members of the media who worshipped Brez.

MM

[Rastus]

The only thing Joe is sure about is that Lori Klausutis wasn’t killed by corona.

[Atticus]

There have been reports that chloroquine may have preventative properties.

[Norseman]

>>These Mensa rejects must realize that the President is just passing along information he received from medical experts.<<

Oh, I think it goes a little deeper than him just passing along information.

Remember how President Reagan kept putting “Tear down this wall” into his speech and his advisors kept taking it out. In the end, he put it in anyway and the rest is history.

President Trump operates on the same level. He’s been convinced (maybe by those same medical experts, but just as likely by reading or listening to other sources—just like we do) that there could be something to this treatment and he wants to see it tried, and soon.

So, he leads the press conference and talks it up. Then his FDA rep comes on and does FDA-speak about trials, taking time, yada, yada.

But every doctor in the country is now aware that President Trump is on their side if they decide to try it off label. More important, the FDA is now on notice to get that treatment into their recommended medical guidelines ASAP, trials to come later.

In other words, he’s leading the charge to get this treatment implemented, not just parroting the advice of his medical experts and letting them set the pace. Just as Reagan did with the wall.

I’ll bet it’s routinely used within two weeks of today’s press conference, something that would never happen without his efforts. The man hates red tape and is better at cutting through it than most. His willingness to do so just might even be the main reason he’s re-elected in November, depending on how it all works out.

What the hey, I’m on a roll....

And if it’s tried very soon, and works as advertised, I could see a quick resumption of normal daily routine across the country once every healthcare facility is stocked with test kits to detect the virus and sufficient supplies of chloroquine (of some form) to handle all incoming cases. We catch it, and it’s serious, we get treatment. If it’s mild, we stay home a few days and then head back to work, school, etc.

The French doctors have now written up their results and they’re pretty impressive, especially when combined with a common antibiotic. Someone posted a link to their writeup earlier in this thread.

This could be exactly what is needed to turn this entire situation around in a matter of weeks.

[Zhang Fei]

[Richard “The Dark Prince” Perl and I ripped Brezinski a “new one” at a press conference many years ago. Richard said something and I fed him a question (which would expose Brz as a total ignoramus and incompetent). Perl proceeded to destroy Brz and a lot of State Dept. idiots as well as members of the media who worshipped Brez.

MM]

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I should have qualified my statement by pointing out that Zbig was a smart guy - for a Democrat. You know how they keep talking about themselves being part of the reality-based community, when they are essentially fantasists? Zbig, unlike Cy Vance, did not have both feet firmly planted in the air.

[Zhang Fei]

[I’ll bet it’s routinely used within two weeks of today’s press conference, something that would never happen without his efforts. The man hates red tape and is better at cutting through it than most. His willingness to do so just might even be the main reason he’s re-elected in November, depending on how it all works out.]

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Agreed. I think this is pretty much how the Chinese felt confident enough about a cure to dragoon everyone back to work. They’re no longer keeping count of infections, but the cases that inevitably arise are being dosed with quinine, and cured.

[Norseman]

>>There have been reports that chloroquine may have preventative properties.<<

I’ve seen hopes and speculation, but no reports. Have there actually been reports of it working prophylactically?

[Norseman]

Maybe, although I’m not sure the Chinese masters even needed a “cure” before sending everyone back to work. They needed to get the factories humming again.

And we don’t even know it they’ve succeeded in that. China appears to be one locked down country right now.

[DoughtyOne]

There's only so much a president can do.

Like us he's desperate for solutions.

If there's hope the Chloroquine can be of help, then by all means go
for it.

I don't see a problem for the president to say they are looking into
the benefits of this drug.

People need hope, and they need to know we are trying every avenue to help.

[Zhang Fei]

[Maybe, although I’m not sure the Chinese masters even needed a “cure” before sending everyone back to work. They needed to get the factories humming again.]

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Given the way pandemics have a way of breeding both bottom-up revolts and elite mutinies, I think he’d want to have at least something in hand before getting people back to work. In a time of ostensible emperor worship, pandemics during the Tang dynasty 1300 years ago triggered this elite revolt:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Lushan_Rebellion

And this peasant revolt, which lasted a full decade and captured the imperial capital:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huang_Chao#Rebellion

Nobody worships Xi Jinping as a living god, either his inner circle all the way down to the people sweeping the streets. Xi, like his fellow emperors over thousands of years, as well as potential challengers, isn’t so much forward- as backward-looking. He examines thousands of years of Chinese history as a catalog of the ways in which future challenges to his reign might arise. Pandemics are just one of those challenges, and you can bet he takes this seriously, not because he particularly cares about the hoi polloi, but because this is one of the ways in which he might get himself killed.

[SeektheTruth54]

Guess you changed your tune since my martial law comment about PA and HCQ. I refer you to March 12 and what our great governor wolf just did tonight. Totally unconstitutional and unnecessary.

[catnipman]

“another “overpromise” from the administration”

just more lies, bullshit, and propaganda from the leftist fake stream enemedia: i watched that news conference and President Trump didn’t PROMISE anything, he simply announced what everyone already had heard about, namely that numerous anecdotal reports were coming in that hydroxychloroquine seemed to be an effective drug about COVID-19 and that he had ordered the FDA to confirm that, determine the best dose, and to get that information to hospitals and doctors ASAP ... since then, TEVA and Mylan have announced that they are gearing up production of hydroxychloroquine and will be donating millions of doses to U.S. hospitals ...

the leftist fake stream enemedia is evil, despicable and anti-American ...

[catnipman]

“The drug is owned by Bayer”

hydroxychloroquine has been off-patent for half a century and therefore not owned by anyone ... anyone can make and sell that drug and TEVA and Mylan just announced that they’re gearing up to manufacture and donate millions of doses of that drug to U.S. hospitals ...

[catnipman]

“Of course our FDA will take months and months to approve it”

no approval is necessary by anyone ... any drug that has already been approved by the FDA can legally and ethically be utilized for any other medical condition WITHOUT FDA approval ... in fact, most prescriptions for antibiotics and antivirals are prescribed off-label because the original FDA approval was usually only for the single bug being tested in the original drug approval test trials ...