Posted on 03/13/2020 5:47:00 AM PDT by Cboldt
Coronavirus is nothing to sneeze at. But so far, widespread panic may not be justified.
You should know:
Obviously, this is a fast-moving news target. For the latest information from the government, you can visit the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) coronavirus page at CDC.gov. The following information is accurate as of Thursday.
Q: What is the average American's risk of getting coronavirus?
A: Low. CDC reports: "For the majority of people, the immediate risk of being exposed to the virus that causes COVID-19 is thought to be low."
Q: What's the likelihood that coronavirus is in my community?
A: Low. CDC reports: "There is not widespread circulation in most communities in the United States."
Q: How many coronavirus deaths have there been in the U.S.?
A: So far, not many. CDC reports 36 deaths. Adding various news reports, the number could be about 40 and growing. Although one death is too many, the reported deaths are among 43 states (including the District of Columbia) reporting outbreaks since January in a population of more than 327 million people.
Q: How many young people have died of coronavirus in the U.S.?
A: So far, there are no reports of deaths among young people in the U.S. The U.S. Surgeon General reports the average age of people who have died from coronavirus in the U.S. is 80. Additionally, he says those who are most impacted have chronic, serious health problems such as heart disease, diabetes, and lung disease.
Q: Who has died so far?
A. These were compiled using CDC reports plus news and local health department reports:
Q: How many people have recovered?
A: News reports say that in China alone, out of 80,000 diagnosed, nearly 60,000 have already recovered. However, the true number of recovered is likely far higher since most of those who get the virus have mild or no symptoms, and so are not diagnosed at all.
Q: Why have there been so many coronavirus deaths in Italy?
A: Italy has reported 827 coronavirus deaths. Experts say the high number is partly because Italy has more residents in the vulnerable age category. Italy has the oldest population in Europe and more elderly per capita than the U.S. Most of the Italian deaths are in patients in their 80s and 90s. In addition, Italy has a great number of direct China contacts. Italy was the first to join China's "silk road" economic partnership project. The coronavirus is believed to have originated in China. Italy's 827 deaths are out of a population of 60 million people. Even though one death is too many, it is still a small relative number.
Q: Why am I hearing so many different fatality rates?
A: Experts say all coronavirus death rates are nothing more than estimates at the moment. That's because it is impossible to know how many people have or had the virus. And that total number is needed to calculate an accurate rate. What makes it more difficult is the fact that most people have few or no symptoms, and so it is impossible to count them.
Some current death rates that sound high are being calculated in a particular age group. The rate will be highest among the elderly and, in the U.S., there have been zero deaths among people age 50 and under. Some death rates are being calculated as deaths among the sickest patients, those are diagnosed and treated, which will produce a much higher number than a more accurate death rate that takes into consideration those patients who are infected but do not become ill at all.
justthenews.com is John Solomon’s new website btw
Thank you!
All I can say is that if this is not a worldwide catastrophe emulating a “Walking Dead” scenario, a lot of dorks on FR are going to be disappointed.
Lots of hype and disinformation here. Seems everyone has an agenda.
Can't believe China's numbers. Recovered: a foot was sticking up out of the mass grave so we to 'recover' it. The virus can't live in an incinerated body so technically they're recovered. They're dead but they no longer have the virus. (90% sarcasm/dark humor)
I found this article from a John Solomon tweet. I hope the source doesn't get "excerpt only" listed on FR.
Waiting for Hockey Stick Graph Guy to post about how we’ll be Italy in 10 days with 68,000 fatalities.
Italy also has ~ 1/3 of the ICU beds that the US does on a per capita basis, 12.5 vs 34.
Alongside Portugal; Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales have the fewest intensive care beds per person in the developed world.
With 100 beds, Northern Ireland has 5.3 ICU beds per 100,000 people; Wales has 5.4 and Scotland has 5.1.
All parts of the UK and Ireland lag far behind countries such as the United States, which has 34 ICU beds per 100,000 people, Germany (29.2), Romania (21.4) or Kazakhstan (21.3).
Compared with countries that have already experienced significant numbers of Covid-19 patients Northern Ireland is much closer to Iran, which has 4.6 ICU beds per 100,000, than Italy which has 12.5.
https://sluggerotoole.com/2020/03/04/northern-ireland-scotland-and-wales-rank-amongst-the-lowest-countries-in-the-developed-world-for-the-number-of-intensive-care-beds/
This has really not been hard to figure out. The top 5 states for coronavirus infections are 1) Washington, 2) California, 3) NY, 4) NJ and 5) Massachusetts. In addition to being high population cities/states, they are also in states that have 5 of the top 7 largest Asian populations in America, the other two being Hawaii and NV. This was obviously brought in by Chinese/Asian travelers to these locations in January and February before the travel ban. But nobody wants to acknowledge that because it’s xenophobic. This will run itself out fairly quickly now, probably in next 10 days. Unfortunately the economic fallout will not be so easy to deal with.
If you're inclinded to be helpful, you could elaborate on that and also let Sharyl Atkisson know the mistakes she's made.
I’m starting to get annoyed at the media for acting like “oh it’s only the elderly”. I’m 65 and in excellent health except that I have seasonal asthma. I’m asthma free until the pollen gets bad or I get a cold in my chest. I think the only thing that has saved me from pneumonia a few times is that I never sit down. I don’t have time to be sick.
My grandmother worked in nursing homes and hospitals as a private sitter for many years starting when she was in her 50’s. She said most of the patients that died actually died from pneumonia regardless of the reason they were there. She made us promise that if she was ever sick enough to be put in the hospital to make sure they get her up and walk her every so often to keep her lungs clear. She lived to 95. Not all elderly in nursing homes are able to walk though so naturally pneumonia kills them first.
When I get a respiratory illness like the flu, cold, or even hay fever and it gets in my chest I force myself to keep moving and keep coughing. Coughing is not your enemy if you have lung issues. I also have to take steroids to breathe if I have a chest ailment and I use a rescue inhaler but as long as I can cough I don’t seem to get pneumonia.
Sheryl is behind the news curve. In 2-3 weeks we could/ will be Italy but in 10 or more states. In Italy 10 days ago as hospitals got overwhelmed, people above 70 were not being admitted to ICU, Now people who are 40 are being taken off vents for people who are 30 ( Drs reporting)
Reporting death rates and average ages is going to be a whole different picture when younger patients can no longer receive 2 weeks or more of ventilator support to sustain their breathing until and unless their lungs recover.
Then...there is the 3d phase to come of nervous system and organ damage. No escape for the young.
Maybe the virus is xenophobic. Sickle cell anemia is racist.
I have read that the virus is particular against Asians - not that it is more effective only there, just that there is a biochemical/protein/DNA difference in play.
If you do get it, rest face down. Helps the lungs and heart. Reportedly improves recovery odds by 50% or more.
If you see those ICU pictures from Italy many patients are lying face down in their beds.
Home health advice from a fellow freeper...
Thanks a lot! I’ll do that. I noticed that so many were on their sides or face down.
It is very curious that neither the CDC nor the WHO identifies the race of those who have become infected, seriously ill or have died. It is clear that if you are frail elderly with underlying medical coditions especially diabetes and chronic pulmonary disease, you are more likely to become seriously ill or die if you contract the COVID-19 virus.Yet just who are the younger people who are contracting the disease and becoming seriously ill or have died? Is population genetics no longer important when studying pandemics? Genetic susceptibility is the prime determinant determining whether a given individual becomes ill or not. However if you start considering population genetics, you will be accused of profiling and of course racism. Hence important data critical to understanding and the appropriate allocation of resources is being withheld or ignored. Political correctness is willful self delusion. It leads to real harm and grief.
Also any comments why sub Saharan Africa and the Indian subcontinent have been almost totally spared from this pandemic?
Leaks out of the CDC are projecting up to 160-214 million US cases and 1.7 million dead.
https://dnyuz.com/2020/03/13/the-worst-case-estimate-for-u-s-coronavirus-deaths/
Johns Hopkins U is projecting up to 1,000 dead in the US PER DAY at peak.
Whistling past the graveyard - literally, in this case - does no-one any good.
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