Sounds more like wishful thinking from a pro-Trump mouthpiece and less like reasoned analysis backed by science and data.
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Um....no.
>>Sounds more like wishful thinking from a pro-Trump mouthpiece and less like reasoned analysis backed by science and data.<<
I tend to agree with you to a point, but if the virus hits a hot spot like a major city in the US then all analysts opinions mean nothing. I think people are taking this very seriously and that will stop it before it becomes a crisis more than it has here in the US.
Italian hospitals are in meltdown.
If you are over 65, or at any age if you have any co-morbid condition (diabetes, heart cond. etc), you are put outside the treatment triage. There simply are not enough staff or ICU beds or lung machines for all. You will not get into ICU, no oxygen intubation, you will just die. This is why Italy’s death rate is so high.
I think the USA will resemble Italy, not S. Korea or Taiwan, where they got way out in front of CV with massive early testing programs, early contract tracing, quarantine and social isolation EARLY.
In the USA, we missed those critical weeks and months of preparation. (Too much “it’s just the flu” BS happy talk.)
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(From the beginning of the thread reader, link to it all is below.)
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From a well respected friend and intensivist/A&E consultant who is currently in northern Italy:
1/ ‘I feel the pressure to give you a quick personal update about what is happening in Italy, and also give some quick direct advice about what you should do.
2/ First, Lumbardy is the most developed region in Italy and it has a extraordinary good healthcare, I have worked in Italy, UK and Aus and don’t make the mistake to think that what is happening is happening in a 3rd world country.
3/ The current situation is difficult to imagine and numbers do not explain things at all. Our hospitals are overwhelmed by Covid-19, they are running 200% capacity
4/ We’ve stopped all routine, all ORs have been converted to ITUs and they are now diverting or not treating all other emergencies like trauma or strokes. There are hundreds of pts with severe resp failure and many of them do not have access to anything above a reservoir mask.
5/ Patients above 65 or younger with comorbidities are not even assessed by ITU, I am not saying not tubed, I’m saying not assessed and no ITU staff attends when they arrest. Staff are working as much as they can but they are starting to get sick and are emotionally overwhelmed.
6/ My friends call me in tears because they see people dying in front of them and they con only offer some oxygen. Ortho and pathologists are being given a leaflet and sent to see patients on NIV. PLEASE STOP, READ THIS AGAIN AND THINK.
[All of the report from an Italian physician at the thread reader link below]
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“Oh, and why are there no flu quarantines? Because it’s so contagious, it would be impossible.”
No, because it’s less lethal and there’s a vaccine.
Yep. Using data from China and elsewhere, such as here, where testing has been so limited is not very helpful.
Sounds like wishful thinking, yes, but don’t blame Trump.
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“Sounds more like wishful thinking from a pro-Trump mouthpiece...”
Yep, what could be more horrible than a pro-Trump mouthpiece. Now, someone like Nicole Wallace giving her opinion is what we should all be waiting for.
I’m always amused by posts like yours. Are there really people who think Presidents can with a wave of a hand cure the sick and lame and cause the blind to see? Do Presidents have a lab at their Fortress of Solitude where they concoct life-saving formulas with machines that beep and flash colorful lights?
Enjoy reveling in the media-concocted panic. It’s getting ratings and selling papers, and that’s all they’re concerned about. Swine Flu, SARS, MERS, the Zika virus. The media never met an epidemic it didn’t play for all it’s worth.
And, by the way, viruses DO ease their spread in warm weather. It’s demonstrated fact. You call it “wishful thinking.” Does that mean you wish it wasn’t true?
“Sounds more like wishful thinking from a pro-Trump mouthpiece”
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It is the usual same old boilerplate. But at least the guy’s into recycling!
Luckily, your wishful thinking isn’t going to come to pass.
You have no contact with any data or Science. You are merely screaming in drama queen hysteria. Stop lying,
Here is the up to the minute data
116,000 cases world wide. 105,000 mild or recovered.
4089 deaths
Average age of the dead, 80 years old.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
SmokingJoe made reasonable and logical points in his post.
You (nwrep) have nothing scientific or logical points in your post except one sentence spewing Trump hate.
Fumento is the guy who correctly predicted in the 1990s that AIDS would remain limited to gay males and I/V drug users. At the time, the government was predicting a widespread pandemic and running daily TV ads insisting that "AIDS Doesn't Discriminate."
He may or may not be right this time, but he deserves to be taken seriously.
Are you in the medical profession? A medical expert? The medical folks I've talked to have the same opinion as the points raised in the article. Please enlighten the rest of us why they're wrong.
Coronavirus has been running around for 3 months or so.
When H1N1 was declared a global emergency, Obama waited another 4 months to do anything - in that time, millions of Americans came down with it and over 1,000 died...
Using some actual perspective, the doomsayers seem to be the ones eschewing reasoned analysis.
You have no idea who Michael Fumento is, do you?
Fumento wrote THE definitive book on HIV/AIDS.....ahead of his time....he’s not a medical person, just a person who can critically look at data....