Posted on 03/08/2020 7:32:18 PM PDT by artichokegrower
“My co-workers make impossible choices daily because a lot of us don’t have access to affordable health insurance,” Vladimir Clairjeune, a passenger service representative at JFK airport, said at a training session Wednesday, learning to deal with the coronavirus/COVID-19 epidemic. “[We] choose not to see a doctor for a health problem because it could be the difference between paying the rent, taking care of family, or getting needed care.”
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The only vaccine they have, they stole from Gilead.
The only way to get “affordable health insurance” is to have affordable health care.
Which is something of a paradox because expensive health care is largely due to the expansion of third party payers, i.e. health insurance.
Back in the 70s drug prices took off because of PCS plans. When they became prevalent as a benefit for people on nice group plans, unions, government, the cash buyers like myself saw our prices shoot up to essentially subsidize the ridiculously low copays for them.
Never happen, but to get cheap health care ALL 3rd party payers need to go. Cash & carry and costs would plummet. Quite painfully of course.
Princeton bioethics professor Peter Singer presented in the New York Times Congressional intent without equivocation. “Rationing health care means getting value for the billions spent by setting limits on which treatments should be paid for from the public purse….There’s no doubt that it’s tough – politically, emotionally, and ethically - to make a decision that means that someone will die sooner than they would have if the decision had gone the other way….The task of health care bureaucrats is then to get the best value for resources they have been allocated….If a teenager can be expected to live another 70 years, saving that life gains 70 years, whereas a person of 85 can be expected to live another 5 years, then saving the 85-year-old will gain only 5 life-years. That suggests saving one teenager is equivalent to saving 14 85-year-olds”.
Under this definition of ethics, a family, doctor, or community of people that brings forward unquantifiable contentions of human worth offer irrelevant arguments for determining the level of healthcare the bureaucracy determines a person should receive. Besides age, additional quantitative criteria can constrain costs. For example, we can measure intelligence, define mental illness and physical handicaps, and identify addictions. Overall, the panel and bureaucracy would decide certain people make minimal or no contribution to society. The access to healthcare would be adjusted accordingly and Congress would make decisions not subject to legal appeal.
ObamaCare ‘death panel’ faces growing opposition from Democrats http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/316045-obamacare-cost-cutting-board-faces-growing-opposition-from-democrats
Why We Must Ration Health Care http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/19/magazine/19healthcare-t.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
RAW DATA: GOP List of New 'Bureaucracies' in House Health Care Bill http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/02/raw-data-gop-list-new-bureaucracies-house-health-care/
We already have fewer medical facilities and hospital beds due to Obamacare - guess these authors believe that further reducing medical capacity would be an awesome solution.
Medicare for All means you’ll never get to see a doctor. Total idiocy.
Democracy Now is communist/Bernie site.
Gilead doesn’t have a vaccine.
They have a drug.
Medicare for all is a single payer proposition. I am on Medicare and pay 2 monthly premiums. I pay 145.00 a month for basic Medicare and another 27.00 for a supplemental policy
Drug != vaccine
Drug == antiviral, antibiotic, etc
One prevents, one fixes.
Different altogether.
However drug companies make both.
If you already have coronavirus you don’t need a vaccine. You need some sort of antiviral treatment.
I’m sure Cuba will come up with a vaccine any day now.
“ The popular Medicare program, instituted in 1965, provides no-cost medical care for those 65 and older. ”
I must be subscribing to the unpopular Medicare program. I have to pay for mine, plus I paid into the program for 40 plus years.
- * unless noted otherwise, these figures are EOD 03/07.
These numbers include Mainland China and All Others globally
This format allows you to see trends. I'll continue to use it.
Today's figures will not appear here, because we are not at the
end of the day yet, and all other figures are EOD figures.
Declared Cases
. Declared Deceased
. . Declared Recovered
. . . Declared Resolved
Date . . . . Cases Remining Active
-----------------------------------------------------------------
03/03 93,160 3,198 50,690 53,888 39,272
03/04 95,425 3,286 53,399 56,685 38,740
03/05 98,387 3,383 55,441 58,824 39,563
03/06 102,188 3,491 57,389 60,880 41,308
03/07 106,165 3,977 59,965 63,559 42,606
It's not that easy to spot the changes in daily growth.03/03: 2,223 03/04: 2,265 03/05: 2,962 03/06: 3,801 03/07: 3,977That's a rather prounounced growth rate. These are just the declared cases
The last column there shows the numbers of active cases. You will note how
they were dropping, then started increasing again. Here are the last five days
drop & then growth numbers.
03/03: -494 03/04: -532 03/05: 823 03/06: 1,745 03/07: 1,298Resolved cases are still helping to soften the massive numbers of new cases
We are seeing record breaking day to day large numbers. We had one spell where
the cases were larger for a day or two, but those were special circumstance
numbers. There was a reclassification in China, that saw over 15,000 cases
dumped into the list on one day. The following days was also abnormally high
Other than those two days, we've not see days where we approached 4,000 new
cases per day. As of 19:33 today, we are already at 3,869 cases.
As predicted, the mortality rate that went as low as 5.65% on the 27th, has now
begun to climb again. As of 19:33 it is running at 5.81%, but later tonight that
may be adjusted a bit, up or down. Generally this time of the day it's down
but things are too hectic to predict.
As predicted, the numbers of active cases of COVID-19 outside China, became larger
than the active cases inside China. At 19:03 the numbers of cases outside China
make up 56.99% of all cases globally. At that time there were 44,292 active
cases.
Globally we have held our own with regard to how many cases have been resolved.
The figure stands at 59,802%. I expected to see that recede more. We are still
very close to seeing 60% of all global cases declared resolved.
These numbers address the cases outside of Mainland China.
I will provide the same format for the numbers outside Mainland China.
Declared Cases
. Declared Deceased
. . Declared Recovered
. . . Declared Resolved
Date . . . . Cases Remining Active
-----------------------------------------------------------------
03/03 12,890 217 837 1,054 11,836
03/04 15,015 279 1,222 1,501 13,514
03/05 17,832 341 1,685 2,026 15,806
03/06 21,537 421 1,986 2,407 19,130
03/07 25,470 497 2,871 3,368 22,102
As you can see, these numbers can easily double or more every five days. As newYou can study the progression of any category you like.
Lets talk about the United States for a minute. I addressed the issue of the
U. S. catching fire several days ago. There was reason for concern, because two
back to back days saw 46.54 & 45.06 growth. That has dropped back to around
26-28%, but that isn't good either, to be honest. Lets hope things cool off.
The current mortality rate of deceased / deceased + recovered is too high to
take much meaning from. I've seen 14-17% figures, but those are not even in
the same ball park as what the final rate will be.
You can still review them if you access my database. That database has full
figures up until the last report at 19:33 this evening.
There are now 109 nations declaring cases within their borders. 1+
Three nations of the 109 nations or entities outside of Mainland China still
account for over 73% of all active cases outside China at this time. They
are slipping a little, but there is a lot of competition out there. Still
The next tier goes down to the 1,000 - 1,200 level. Those were the EOD
figures for 03/07.
7,134 28.01% South Korea
5,883 22.04% Italy
5,823 23.10% Iran
73.15% of all cases ourside of China...
These are clearly three break-out naitons.
I have a new section that addresses only the cases in the United States.
I have a new metric that explains how many people there are to one case in
each of these entities: Globally, Mainland China, Outside China, and inside
the United States. There is one person in every so many people in each of these entities.
Globally : 175,665 Mainland China: 77,852 Outside China : 308,248 The U. S. A. : 637,838All data below sourced from Johns Hopkins University: LINK
I have been downloading three to five reports per day since 01/27. I have then
worked up numbers that should give a very good representation of numbers that have
been provided to the public via that site.
In my spreadsheet linked below, you'll find global numbers including China. You will
find a separate section addressing just the Outside China figures. Then there is now
also a section with just the United States stats in there. There are also a lot of
special stats broken out for you to browse. The history of 109 nations and their
from day one of their reporting.
You're welcome to it.
COVID-19 Spreadsheet using JHU data
I'd like to apologize to those who may have been accessing my XLS version.
Due to the numbers of nations I am now tracking, the XLS version cannot support
the width of the file I have created. I can no longer provide it without major work.
If anyone wants that version, let me know and I'll see what I can do.
It really depends.
If I think about a group of teenagers that have just mugged, beaten and robbed a 15 year old girl, the highest and best use for that whole group might be parting them out for transplants to save the lives of numerous 85 year olds...
Must be a big secret, this no cost Medicare. ‘cause I sure am on the pay by the month and per visit program too.
I remember riding the bus to work with a group of folks heading to the Pearl Buck Center in Eugene. The politically correct term would be mentally challenged, and I enjoyed their company. I can’t say the same for many of the people I see hanging out a McDonald’s when the high school next door breaks for lunch.
I thought the liebarltarian said thing whis problem was over
Pardon?
What in the name of algore is this person talking about?
The only thing Medicare covers at no cost is hospice and even there you may have to pay for some of the drugs OOP.
Medicare part A covers 60% of your hospital bills only. You have to buy Medicare part B which costs at least a $250.00 a month and then you need to buy part D or pay for all prescriptions out of pocket.
B btw is NOT optional. It is taken out of your SS check will you nil you.
And let us not forget that there is a 2.9% payroll tax for the 45-50 years you worked before being forced onto this program.
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