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Trump Says He Has a 'Hunch' WHO Death Rate for Coronavirus Is Wrong
PJ Media ^ | 03/06/2020 | Rick Moran

Posted on 03/06/2020 7:47:42 AM PST by SeekAndFind

A firestorm has erupted over remarks about the coronavirus made by Donald Trump last night on "Hannity." He claims he has a "hunch" that the official death rate of 3.4 percent released by the WHO earlier this week is "false."

As usual, much of the coverage exaggerates the stupidity of Trump's remarks. The president's off-the-cuff thoughts about the coronavirus have been twisted to be shown in the worst possible light.

What's new?

In fact, Trump should keep his mouth shut and let others brief the public about the disease. His mixed-up facts, inexact statements, and ignorance could cause confusion -- exactly what isn't needed at this point in what is clearly an epidemic.

Politico:

"Well, I think the 3.4 percent is really a false number. Now, and this is just my hunch, and — but based on a lot of conversations with a lot of people that do this. Because a lot people will have this and it's very mild. They'll get better very rapidly. They don't even see a doctor. They don't even call a doctor," Trump said.

"You never hear about those people. So you can't put them down in the category of the overall population in terms of this corona flu and — or virus. So you just can't do that," he continued. "So if, you know, we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better, just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work but they get better."


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; deathrate; guesswork; hunch; potushunch; trumphunch; who
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To: SeekAndFind

All he’s saying is he suspects there are a lot of undiagnosed cases of Coronavirus in the world. LOTS of other people have said the same thing. There were not enough test kits. The medical system in China was overwhelmed such that they were turning people away from hospitals, etc.

So if there are a lot more cases than those diagnosed so far.....then the death rate must MUST be lower than the officially reported rate. There’s nothing extreme/radical about what he said. Most people think the same.


21 posted on 03/06/2020 8:04:59 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: SeekAndFind

He has said things like this before - and turned out to be right.


22 posted on 03/06/2020 8:05:22 AM PST by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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To: richardtavor

Even the yearly flu virus updates are ESTIMATED ranges because they cannot possibly know how many people were infected but did not show signs, did not go to a doctor, were not tested, etc, BUT were infected none-the-less. You have to have an accurate number of infected to compare to known deaths. Add to that, many flu deaths are misdiagnosed or cause of death is from pneumonia brought on by the flu.

Statistical nonsense on COVID-19.


23 posted on 03/06/2020 8:05:50 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: SeekAndFind

No death rate number should be mentioned as there is not sufficient data to make that determination.


24 posted on 03/06/2020 8:08:13 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Epstein pulled a Carradine, the bozo.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

That remains to be seen.

This isn’t a hollywood script virus that kills in a few days.

From infection to disease resolution can be over a month.

SK is still in the second or third inning wrt total numbers.


25 posted on 03/06/2020 8:09:02 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Yet many expert mathematicians and renowned health experts on this board will argue that fact.


26 posted on 03/06/2020 8:09:19 AM PST by going hot (happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: SeekAndFind

A pure statement of fact. The mortality rate almost always goes down for a novel pathogen as it spreads throughout available hosts. Initial cases are first identified and get attention because the most severe cases are the initial ones seen in the early discovery phases.


27 posted on 03/06/2020 8:09:55 AM PST by Codeflier (FearRepublic.com - keeping the media panic narrative going 24/7 to finally bring down Trump.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Don’t you understand, Republicans, that Trump is not allowed to have his own opinion? He has to shut-up and defer to some globalist health “czar” who would rather see him dead.


28 posted on 03/06/2020 8:12:24 AM PST by Socon-Econ (adical Islam,)
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To: CincyRichieRich

“He surrounds himself with the most intelligent people...”

YES! First and foremost.... Donald J Trump.


29 posted on 03/06/2020 8:15:05 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is wrong. The death rate is being determined by confirmed cases vs. confirmed deaths. There have likely thousands of unconfirmed cases.


30 posted on 03/06/2020 8:15:13 AM PST by Kazan
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To: richardtavor

Everything Trump said is completely true and reasonable. Everything thing the media stooges reported and fabricated is typical stooge BS.


31 posted on 03/06/2020 8:21:10 AM PST by hardspunned
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I am waiting for the firestorm to breakout over the fact that China hid the outbreak for about six weeks and allowed travelers from the stricken province to spread it all over the world.


32 posted on 03/06/2020 8:21:14 AM PST by odawg
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To: grobdriver
He has said things like this before - and turned out to be right.

Yes. I don't think President Trump says things casually. He gets the facts. He's ahead of the game. He may not be in a position to spell it all out at this stage, but he knows how this is going to go and therefore he says in public that he "has a hunch".

He knows.

33 posted on 03/06/2020 8:21:28 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Look, we need to look at the cultural habits of the most affected countries first. It may finally force many cultures to finally stop having so much physical contact during greetings, for startere.
34 posted on 03/06/2020 8:22:30 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: SeekAndFind; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; ...
Yes, yes, it is. WHO data uncritically regurgitates the distorted-to-save-face numbers their #2 financial contributor, China, gives them...
Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

If a quarantine saves just one child's life, it's worth it.

35 posted on 03/06/2020 8:26:56 AM PST by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: faithhopecharity
The Communist Chinese can't give a reliable figure. They are too busy collecting and burning corpses 24x7 to do proper autopsies to definitively identify the cause of death. They ran out of hospital beds and test kits very early. A proxy for the proper tests became a CT scan of the chest with a finding of "ground glass" opacity of the alveolar areas. Even that was too time consuming. There are still people welded into their homes. They aren't getting food deliveries, so even if they don't die from the virus, they may die from starvation.
36 posted on 03/06/2020 8:29:43 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

Old Bernie the Red would love it there ! But since he’s old frail and has had heart attacks the commies would probable dispose of him promptly. Animal Farm lives


37 posted on 03/06/2020 8:33:28 AM PST by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE).)
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To: Myrddin

Old Bernie the Red would love it there ! But since he’s old frail and has had heart attacks the commies would probable dispose of him promptly. Animal Farm lives


38 posted on 03/06/2020 8:34:28 AM PST by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE).)
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To: Black Agnes
The numbers to watch will come from South Korea.

South Korea:

40 Deaths, 135 Recovered=175 resolved cases

(40 deaths/175 resolved cases)*100=22.8%

39 posted on 03/06/2020 8:35:03 AM PST by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: suthener
That's the point many are missing, even on FR. The virus can present as a cold or flu, illnesses for which a lot of people simply stay at home. No doctor visit, no Rx, etc.

It's impossible to derive a statistic under our current circumstances.

We'd also need to know how far the affected have traveled, race, ethnicity, gender, personal habits, etc. That's what I'd want to know before I would panic.

40 posted on 03/06/2020 8:36:31 AM PST by LouAvul ("Little by little, the look of the country changes because of the men we admire.")
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