Saloon owners beat up on city in fight over mural Ordinance changed following dispute over saloon's scenery

wnd.com ^ | 2/29/2020 | WND staff

[rktman]

In Mandan, North Dakota, it's saloon mural 1, city 0.

That's after the city hastily enacted a free speech-friendly ordinance to replace one that censored murals.

Officials with the Institute for Justice said a lawsuit filed against the city by the owners of Lonesome Dove saloon has ended after the city changed its regulations to allow the saloon's mural.

Brian Berube and August Kersten, the saloon's owners, and IJ had sued the city for "trying to ban their mural because it was 'intended to advertise an establishment,'" the IJ reported.

[rktman]

First amendment 101.

[PghBaldy]

Got a Windows Defender malware warning when I clicked on link. That is new for me on WND.

[lastchance]

The dispute probably came about because of the city’s sign ordinance. You want to become acquainted with nit-picking ordinance? Welcome to sign ordinances.

[saminfl]

I got the same thing.

[rktman]

Dang! Had that problem several months ago with ‘wnd’ to point of needing to do a total power down and restart of my computer. Sorry.

[rktman]

See #5. Guess I’ll stear clear of wnd again for a while. Sorry.

[SES1066]

So that we can see what is being talked about ...

More background from IJ; "Augie and Brian started Lonesome Dove 28 years ago. Over the years, the saloon has become a second home for cowboys and other locals searching for good music and good company. But Lonesome Dove was showing its age, and Augie and Brian wanted to give the place a facelift. So they paid one of their waitresses, also an artist, to paint over a Coors Light logo that had adorned the front of the building for over a decade. In its place, she painted a sun setting over the mountains, with a ranch and cowboys scattered across the landscape. Artistically rendered across the top of the mural are the words, “Lonesome Dove.” The mural brought in new customers and many compliments. Everyone seemed to like it.

Everyone but city officials, that is. Soon after the employee finished painting the mural, Augie and Brian received a notice of violation. According to the city, the mural lacked a “mural permit” and Lonesome Dove would have to pay to apply for one. Over the next five months, Lonesome Dove had to submit two separate permit applications for the mural and undergo three hearings. Ultimately, the city commission decided the mural was illegal under its mural regulations and ordered it removed by May 23. The city denied the permit because its guidelines state “no mural may be placed on the front of a building” and “no mural shall convey a commercial message.”

[kearnyirish2]

I see ugly radical murals all over urban sh!tholes; do they get permits for those?

[Currentriverrat]

Me too!

[samtheman]

I got a malware warning clicking on this link.

Either a fake warning, eliciting clicks, or a real warning from chrome.

Either way, I’m not clicking on this site again. I’ll just read the text posted here in FR.

[bigbob]

Get a building permit to add a glass-enclosed seating area. That would make it an interior mural (visible from the street however) and tell the city busybodies to GFY.

[gibsonguy]

There is guy holding a gun. City counsels, like School Boards attract leftists like flies so that could be the problem

[poinq]

Ok, then its not a mural. It decoration of the building. Just redefine what it is, a sign, art, or building decoration. Stick to first amendment things. And look for other examples that are allowed to exist by the city.

[Paladin2]

[rktman]

Hmmm. I notice what appears to be an ‘NA’ riding horseback in the hills. Could that have been the actual cause for the fracas?

[unixfox]

If they had painted a gay flag on the building it would have been crickets.

[kearnyirish2]

Towns are painting their crosswalks in rainbow colors; bizarre world!

(On top of that, it is cultural appropriation; the “rainbow flag” is the Inca flag)

[pepsi_junkie]

Where I come from in the Northeast murals are like a warning label. They never put them in the burbs or the nice parts of the city, only in the high crime zones. Just sayin’.

[Wuli]

“Got a Windows Defender malware warning when I clicked on link. That is new for me on WND.”

I got the same Windows Firewall defender message and I could not get control of my computer without forcing a shut down by powering off.

[Attention Surplus Disorder]

I stopped going to WorldNetDaily years ago because it seemed like it was a combination of hotbed, Launchpad, and Cesspool for viruses and malware.