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Secession fever spikes in five states as conservatives seek to escape blue rule
Washington Times ^ | February 19, 2020 | Valerie Richardson

Posted on 02/22/2020 8:02:16 AM PST by Twotone

You’ve got Oregonians seeking to cascade into Idaho, Virginians who identify as West Virginians, Illinoians fighting to escape Chicago, Californians dreaming of starting a 51st state, and New Yorkers who think three states are better than one.

Separation fever is sweeping the nation as quixotic but tenacious bands of frustrated rural dwellers, suburbanites and conservatives seek to break free from states with legislatures increasingly controlled by liberal big cities and metropolitan strongholds.

“Oregon is controlled by the northwest portion of the state, Portland to Eugene. That’s urban land, and their decisions are not really representing rural Oregon,” said Mike McCarter, president of Move Oregon’s Border for a Greater Idaho. “They have their agenda and they’re moving forward with it, and they’re not listening to us.”

In Virginia, the newly elected Democratic majority’s progressive legislation on issues such as gun rights has spurred “Vexit,” or “Virginia exit,” a campaign to merge right-tilting rural counties into neighboring West Virginia that organizers say has the potential to catch fire nationwide.

“To be honest, if this works — you’ve got a lot of red areas in this country that are totally dominated by a blue metropolis,” said Vexit2020 leader Rick Boyer, a former member of the Campbell County Board of Supervisors. “If it works in Virginia, there’s no reason it can’t reshape the political map.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bluestates; redstates; secession
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To: Twotone

For a while, Republicans in Red States were pondering laws for an electoral college system within the states.
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Why not just require that each state’s electors, to the Electoral Congress, vote how each Congressional District in each state voted.

That’s true representation, just like the Congressional districts elect from their district to the House of Representatives. Electoral votes would follow suit.

Winner takes all dies.

Voter fraud in large urban areas loses its statewide impact. Most states would be mostly red.

Candidates would have to appeal to everyone, not just the large metropolitan areas.


41 posted on 02/22/2020 8:57:10 AM PST by Yulee
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To: kingu

“Pretty sure if you eject the Portland megaplex to Washington State, you cure most of the issue there. Then adopt most of the northern counties of California.”

No thanks. We’ve got enough problems here already.
King,Snohomish and Pierce Counties already run the whole state. It’s a typical example of the tail wagging the dog.


42 posted on 02/22/2020 8:58:16 AM PST by Senormechanico
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To: Twotone

The description of the beleaguered ‘Red areas’ perfectly describes Minnesota where the Twin Cities, along the border of Wisconsin, totally dominate the voters of other areas. It is very irritating and tiresome.


43 posted on 02/22/2020 9:03:00 AM PST by Gumdrop
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To: Alas Babylon!; HangnJudge; Sybeck1

LOL, everybody hates Memphis!


44 posted on 02/22/2020 9:04:55 AM PST by Tennessee Conservative
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To: Dilbert San Diego
I could see these plans embraced by everyone. I fully understand the conservative desire to not be part of a liberal state. But from the liberal view, they should be happy to get rid of deplorable types from their states, and be free to create their liberal Utopia with no.interference.

To highlight your point, the California lefty-elites seem just fine with Conservative middle class Citizens emigrating to "red" states coincidentally with illegal aliens immigrating in from mexico, china, and who-knows-where. They maintain their population numbers, and get rid of that bothersome middle class while importing hordes to the servant class.

45 posted on 02/22/2020 9:09:14 AM PST by Seaplaner
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Hey, 28 - I resent my state being called New Somalia. Just chop off a blue circle of MN along the Wisconsin border for the Twin Cities and give it that name. The rest of Minnesota is very conservative.


46 posted on 02/22/2020 9:10:13 AM PST by Gumdrop
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To: Twotone

Solution: Implement a form of the Electoral College at the state county level, for the same reason we have the Electoral College for Presidential elections.

Right now we have mob rule by a handful of counties in each state. We would have fair elections if we had an electoral college at the county level for each state.

The population of a number of states is much greater now than was the entire population of the USA a couple hundred years ago. That is, some states have more people themselves compared to the entire population of the whole country. It is time to implement the Electoral College for state elections.

Politics for an entire state is currently determined by dense population areas that are characterized by high crime rates, drug use, unemployment levels, and homelessness.


47 posted on 02/22/2020 9:13:20 AM PST by olezip
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To: Twotone

Just attack the morons and get conservatives elected


48 posted on 02/22/2020 9:14:18 AM PST by Truthoverpower (The guv mint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: max americana

I left Minnestoopid nine years ago to return to Texas. I tell those woke Twin Cities people not to come to Houston cos the Klan has a cross burning in front of City Hall every Friday night.


49 posted on 02/22/2020 9:23:44 AM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: Yulee
Voter fraud in large urban areas loses its statewide impact.

"Sanctuary cities" should be excluded from state totals/"popular vote" count.

50 posted on 02/22/2020 9:28:55 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (We need to reach across the aisle, extend a hand...And slap the crap out of them)
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To: Gumdrop

I don’t make’em... I just find and post ‘em.

I hope your state gets control of the muslims before it gets out of control further!


51 posted on 02/22/2020 9:39:25 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Twotone

I guess I don’t understand why you’re even allowed to vote in a state until you have been a resident for some duration.

People are free to move about, as I have all my life, but what the hell can you claim to know about a state you just moved to?

The way I see it, this is something Conservatives could, and happily would, tolerate.

Liberals could never stand living somewhere they are not “changing”.


52 posted on 02/22/2020 9:39:32 AM PST by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: Tennessee Conservative

LOL, everybody hates Memphis!

I lived there for 3 years. My VERY first day there I walked into Mall of Memphis to be encountered by 3-4 utes who said “get out of the way cracker”. Right then and there I knew I made a mistake moving there.


53 posted on 02/22/2020 9:53:43 AM PST by setter
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To: Empire_of_Liberty
I guess I don’t understand why you’re even allowed to vote in a state until you have been a resident for some duration.

Use to be that way for the longest time, until...the Supremes....

Residency Requirements for Voting "The Supreme Court decision of March 21, 1972, declared lengthy requirements for voting in state and local elections unconstitutional and suggested that 30 days was an ample period. Most of the states have changed or eliminated their durational residency requirements to comply with the ruling, as shown."

This case wended its way through the courts after the 1968 DNC Chicago convention...main purpose was to allow students in liberal colleges to vote in the college state. Effected national, state, and local election results. 18 year minimum voter age was also part and parcel of the strategy. Dems saw the chance to grab youth/student disaffection and they went for the gold.

54 posted on 02/22/2020 9:53:44 AM PST by Covenantor (We are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: setter

I have only been there once. We traveled cross country to Montana and back. We went through Memphis coming back. We got lost and had to get a motel room. Gun shots were going off all around us all night long. Never again! Nothing but a bunch of uncivilized ferals.


55 posted on 02/22/2020 9:58:55 AM PST by Tennessee Conservative
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To: Tennessee Conservative

“Gun shots were going off all around us all night long. Never again! Nothing but a bunch of uncivilized ferals.”

The company who hired me put me up in a company owned apartment in a safe side of town until I found a place.
I still chuckle over the woman in HR who pulled out a map and told me these are the areas you need to look for an apartment in. Trying her best not to say the other areas are full of blacks and trying not to create lawsuit for herself over her instructions to me. She did not know my views on the matter. Later on I got to know her well and we both laughed about it.


56 posted on 02/22/2020 10:05:07 AM PST by setter
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To: Covenantor

I suppose I knew that there was a reason voting wasn’t being handled more intelligently. Thank you for the work of explanation.

Of course, the Court is wrong and this is clearly just a political decision. It was more recent than I expected to see, however. Game-changers, like this decision, which undo a century or more of convention, need more serious challenge.

We are in the process of learning that the vote of an imbecile is worth exactly what you pay for it.


57 posted on 02/22/2020 10:17:10 AM PST by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I would suggest you don’t understand the Leftist mindset.

1) they need a tax base to fleece so they can lavish money on grievance groups in big cities. They would not be at all happy to see their cash cows leave.

2) What good is power if you can’t lord it over people, boss them around, take away their choices in life, dictate to them, etc? They live for this.


58 posted on 02/22/2020 11:04:40 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: Twotone

There are several states that could be permanently fixed with one well placed Nuke. In the case of a few of them it might take an H-bomb. Several other states are beyond redemption.

One nuke on Minneapolis and Minnesota is a red state.

One nuke on Miami and Florida is very solidly red instead of purplish.

One H-bomb on Occupied Northern Virginia and that state is solidly red.

One H-bomb on the Willamette Valley and Oregon is a red state again.

One nuke on Seattle and Washington is a red state again.

One nuke on Vegas and Nevada is a red state again.

One nuke on Philly and Pennsylvania is a red state.

One nuke on Detroit and Michigan is a red state.

One nuke (maybe it’d take an H-bomb) on NYC and New York is a red state.

Maybe a limited nuclear exchange with Iran/North Korea wouldn’t be so bad.......


59 posted on 02/22/2020 11:11:38 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: Twotone

NYS has lost almost half its House overy the last 60 years.

Good news for the rest of the nation anyway.


60 posted on 02/22/2020 11:21:58 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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