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Greyhound says it will STOP Border Patrol agents without warrants from boarding buses to make immigration checks on passengers
DM ^ | 2/22/2020

Posted on 02/22/2020 7:13:47 AM PST by Wilderness Conservative

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To: Jim W N

“ The Constitution gives rules to confine government to reasonable acts against citizens, without which government will run amok.”

Agreed...except our government has ALREADY run amok. We can find ways to arrest illegals without violating the 4th Amendment.


61 posted on 02/22/2020 8:29:31 AM PST by jdsteel (Americans are Dreamers too!!!)
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To: mewzilla

I doubt many are. Too many hoops you have to pass through to be an interstate bus driver.

That being said...with this announcement, at least in my mind, Greyhound is no longer a safe way of transport for any Normal, Deplorable, or conservative. They are now destined for bankruptcy unless they change their mind, and swiftly.


62 posted on 02/22/2020 8:29:32 AM PST by hoagy62 (America Supreme!)
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To: Wilderness Conservative

DOT/ICC. Could be someones license for conveyance needs to be investigated again. Sanctuary buses. Who knew?


63 posted on 02/22/2020 8:30:35 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Jim W N
I think the terms of the lease might be a factor.

Is it a one year lease? How about a security deposit? Are pets allowed?

64 posted on 02/22/2020 8:30:42 AM PST by ASA Vet (Make American Intelligence Great Again.)
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To: Wilderness Conservative

I agree they should tell the authorities to get a warrant. Otherwise the stop-and-friskery will spread to other establishments and to homes. 4A will be antiquated in no time.
Govt is already rolling over our civil liberties like tanks on a playground. Not long ago you needed a national emergency for the sort of thing that now happens routinely.
Warrantless raiding stinks of police state.
Furthermore, one day they’ll raid the wrong bus and confront the wrong illegal alien, and innocent passengers will be hit in the crossfire.
Warrants and some detective work at the desk are safer for all concerned. Your basic teenager can open a laptop and locate illegals in about five minutes. Deputize him and he can do it in half the time.


65 posted on 02/22/2020 8:30:43 AM PST by Buttons12
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To: hoagy62
Greyhound is no longer a safe way of transport for any Normal, Deplorable, or conservative.

The hound should have been the first level of security, profiling and scrutinizing their own passengers.

I'm surprised we haven't had a "palestinian" blow up a bus.

66 posted on 02/22/2020 8:34:56 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (We need to reach across the aisle, extend a hand...And slap the crap out of them)
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To: pepsionice

[Back in 2013, I rode Greyhound for the first time in 30 years....for a simple two-hour trip.]


I took a Greyhound to the casino once, and had no such issues. I suppose your mileage may vary.


67 posted on 02/22/2020 8:40:32 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

shrinkage

Nice term for shoplifting and theft


68 posted on 02/22/2020 8:40:43 AM PST by Bell Bouy II
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To: Wilderness Conservative

Pull their interstate license.


69 posted on 02/22/2020 8:43:27 AM PST by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
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To: lodi90
Stop the bus. Make everyone get off. Problem solved.

Once, the bus drives on a public road.

70 posted on 02/22/2020 8:44:22 AM PST by depressed in 06 (60 in '20. Now, more than ever! (61, I didn't take into account Mittens.))
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To: Wilderness Conservative

Revoke their license.


71 posted on 02/22/2020 8:45:39 AM PST by Captain Peter Blood (https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3804407/posts?q=1&;page=61)
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To: Meatspace

Ok then, open ended for a specific reason such as known avenues used by illegals.


72 posted on 02/22/2020 8:46:19 AM PST by billyboy15
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To: ptsal

Yep. The driver will be arrested for not following a law enforcement directive.


73 posted on 02/22/2020 8:47:14 AM PST by DownInFlames (Galsd)
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To: billyboy15
...known avenues used by illegals.

Exactly. Has it ever happened before...that a wetback has ridden on a bus?

(Another one rides the bus - Weird Al Yankovic)

74 posted on 02/22/2020 8:52:39 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (We need to reach across the aisle, extend a hand...And slap the crap out of them)
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To: lodi90

“Stop the bus. Make everyone get off. Problem solved.”

Yup. Not only does that work, it becomes a step in the process which illegals will avoid at all costs.


75 posted on 02/22/2020 8:54:06 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Operation Chaos is in play. Repeat, Operation Chaos is in play)
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To: Wilderness Conservative

The company said it would notify the Department of Homeland Security that it does not consent to unwarranted searches.

Greyhound thinks it’s above the law license get pulled until they understands who makes the rules.


76 posted on 02/22/2020 8:55:17 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: Wilderness Conservative

So, stopped busses will not go forward while waiting for the warrant to be produced


77 posted on 02/22/2020 8:58:01 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: Wilderness Conservative

That tells me that Greyhound is admitting there might be some folks on the bus that I as a passenger would not want to be associated with.


78 posted on 02/22/2020 8:58:33 AM PST by oldtech
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To: Wilderness Conservative
After reading the article and all the comments, I have to say that people here have a very narrow viewpoint on the problem and potential solutions. So let me posit a different idea: randomly have a Border Patrol agent buy a ticket and ride on the bus.

Greyhound makes it clear that a person with a ticket can go where a ticketless person can't.

Greyhound is going to have problems restricting ticket sales to our law enforcement.

Arrests without warrants but with probable cause are black letter law. Cell phones are wonderful tools to arrange pickups.

Having uniformed BP agents on board will discourage use of Greyhound by the undercover undocumented.

To reduce cost, the BP targets those routes known to be used frequently by underground undocumented.

79 posted on 02/22/2020 9:07:54 AM PST by asinclair (Political hot air is a renewable energy resource)
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To: lodi90
Stop the bus. Make everyone get off. Problem solved.

Have friendly Sheriff a county or two ahead hold the bus with a warrant. Done.

80 posted on 02/22/2020 9:25:25 AM PST by numberonepal (WWG1WGA)
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