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‘The inner Putin coming out’: Russian president touts ‘integration’ with Ukraine
Washington Examiner ^ | February 21, 2020 | Joel Gehrke

Posted on 02/22/2020 3:24:15 AM PST by tlozo

Russia could regain its status as “a global rival” for Western powers through some degree of “integration” with Ukraine, Russian President Vladimir Putin said...

Putin made the comment while reiterating his belief that Ukrainians and Russians are “the same people,” a claim widely perceived as a means to justify Russian influence over former Soviet nations. His reference to “integration” is even more unusual, and incendiary, according to Western analysts, given that the two countries have been locked in conflict since Russia’s annexation of Crimea and invasion of Ukraine in 2014...

Multiple Western analysts noted that Putin has been pressuring Belarus to form a new political union with Russia, a political shift that could enable him to remain president of the expanded Russian state. That effort is anchored in an ambiguous 1998 political agreement between the two countries. Ukrainian authorities never signed such a deal, and the current conflict has alienated the two peoples despite Putin’s long-running effort to deny that Russian military forces invaded Ukraine.

“The Ukrainians understand now that the Russians, particularly this group in the Kremlin, are no longer their brothers,” another former U.S. official familiar with Russian-Ukrainian issues told the Washington Examiner. “From the Ukrainian standpoint, it's ludicrous to even contemplate.”

Alisa Muzergues, a foreign policy analyst at GLOBSEC, echoed that assessment and added that the attempt to maintain influence in Ukraine is partly a way to appeal to the domestic Russian population.

“Putin is striving for recognition of Russia as a superpower, but while having limited capacities, it can only have a direct influence on its immediate neighborhood,” she told the Washington Examiner. "And Ukraine is indeed a crucial player in this game of Putin’s influence due to a number of reasons: economic, cultural, historic — but also it is important for his influence inside Russia.”...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: eurotroll; eussr; nazitroll; putin; putinsbootlickers; russia; russiasucks; soroskiddies; ukraine
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To: NorseViking

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_of_Ukraine


21 posted on 02/22/2020 5:14:04 AM PST by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: NorseViking

There was a Sovu\iet propagandist years ago who would do US media.
Thought he’s probably dead.

Then I see your comment so now, I’m not so sure. Hi Comrade.


22 posted on 02/22/2020 5:14:57 AM PST by romanesq (8Chan and its child porn are kaput & all the crap with it. Trump-Pence 2020!)
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To: romanesq

If you are talking about Pozner he is alive and well. A big time Putin critic. Anti-communist but more on a liberal side.


23 posted on 02/22/2020 5:20:46 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

Who drove the tanks to Ukraine? I suspect soldiers. Hard to buy tanks at your local used car lot.

Get real.


24 posted on 02/22/2020 5:22:12 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: yldstrk

Yep, ‘borderland’, ‘a frontier’. Now think for a moment how would you call yourself living near US-Mexican border? I guess ‘borderlander’ doesn’t sound good. You’ll call yourself American or Mexican depending on your nationality. The same applies to Ukraine before 1920s.


25 posted on 02/22/2020 5:25:00 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: McGruff
The only people killing Ukrainians is the Ukrainian government.

BS. There would be no war in Ukraine without Putin's invasion.

Donbass Airport After Putin's Invasion


26 posted on 02/22/2020 5:27:12 AM PST by tlozo
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To: NorseViking
There was no such term as Ukrainian before 1920s. All of them called themselves Russian.

Nonsense, it was Russian authorities that would not use the term Ukraine or Ukrainian and instead were required by the Tsar to use the terminology "Small Russian" for Ukrainians. Ukrainian authors wrote about Ukraine even in 1840.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russification_of_Ukraine

27 posted on 02/22/2020 5:29:41 AM PST by tlozo
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To: Jim Noble

Good luck with that Vlad. The Ukranians and I don’t mean Crimea hate the Russians guts. Plus most are catholic not Russian orthodox.


28 posted on 02/22/2020 5:30:43 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: NorseViking
What soldiers?


Just a couple of "separatists" hmmm?


29 posted on 02/22/2020 5:33:22 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: McGruff
Obviously those poor Ukrainians need another pile of US taxpayer dollars, to protect them from the evil Putin.

The pretty refugee girl crying with the kitten, that hits all the buttons, doesn't it?

Don't play me for a sap. It's Biden's son, and Romney's son, and Nancy's son, and Kerry's son that would get the money.

NO!

30 posted on 02/22/2020 5:39:10 AM PST by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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To: NorseViking

It’s been the Ukraine since the 12th century.


31 posted on 02/22/2020 5:49:39 AM PST by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: American in Israel

90% of Ukrainian military in Crimea defected to Russia.
Now think why won’t the military in Donbas defect to DNR?
Also Ukraine has universal conscription. 80% of all males over 21 knows a thing or two about how to ride a tank.


32 posted on 02/22/2020 5:50:23 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: yldstrk

Did you read your link yourself? The border between US and Mexico exists for quite some time too. The people residing from both sides are still Americans and Mexicans. Not Borderlanders, Edgers or Ukrainians.


33 posted on 02/22/2020 5:53:44 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: tlozo

My ex-wife’s grandparents came to America from Tarnopol and Kiev after 1900.

The woman from Tarnopol listed her nationality as “Austrian” and her language as “Russian”, the man from Kiev answered “Russian” for both nationality and language.

When the woman died in Connecticut in 1992, she had a Russian Orthodox funeral.

Just two data points.


34 posted on 02/22/2020 5:55:40 AM PST by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: tlozo

“” “” Nonsense, it was Russian authorities that would not use the term Ukraine or Ukrainian and instead were required by the Tsar to use the terminology “Small Russian” for Ukrainians. Ukrainian authors wrote about Ukraine even in 1840.”” “”

Ukrainian operative Chalupa, president Poroshenko, and NABU director Sytnyk persuaded half of the Americans that Trump is a Putin’s puppet.
I guess theirs would just as easy persuade Wikipedia about everything the Tsars did.
Trump at least can hit back.


35 posted on 02/22/2020 5:57:48 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: tlozo

36 posted on 02/22/2020 6:01:39 AM PST by McGruff
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To: tlozo

Will this bring Ukraine into NATO?


37 posted on 02/22/2020 6:01:41 AM PST by rrrod (6)
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To: Jim Noble

True enough. That’s my point.


38 posted on 02/22/2020 6:02:17 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: tlozo
There was no Russian invasion of Ukraine. Even the NATO commander said if there was it would be over in three days.

And it's the Ukrainian government who destroyed the Donbass airport. Those dam rebels wanting there independence. We can't have that.

39 posted on 02/22/2020 6:05:31 AM PST by McGruff
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To: Jim Noble
This backs up your point.


40 posted on 02/22/2020 6:07:47 AM PST by McGruff
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