[yesthatjallen]

A couple graphs about the spread at link.

[catbertz]

What a mess that ship situation has become. Reads like a movie script.

[stars & stripes forever]

It must be spreading via the ventilation and sewer systems.

[IndispensableDestiny]

Floating petri dish. The US lawyer who refused evacuation is an idiot.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

The travel industry is going to take a big hit this year. I’m considering taking a vacation in Costa Rica myself, I might just put it off for another year.

[RummyChick]

i am really curious as to who is going to pay for all the medical requirements. If you have travel insurance there is a cap that wont cover all of this...and there might be some kind of exemption for this

Will the cruise ship be responsible???

Will the govts be responsible that force you into quarantine?

And what about all the lost wages???

THis really is a nightmare for people

[Cowgirl of Justice]

G- D.

Is it spreading throughout the ventilation system?

[Capt. Tom]

“And 70% of those testing positive are not showing any symptoms at all.”

They might just be carriers?

Should they be let loose into the general public?- Tom

[Revel]

It is time to shut these ships down for the time being. There are so many ways this virus can spread. And it sounds like it might even get carried by the ventilation systems. If that is the case then it does no good to lock people in their rooms.

Airplanes will have the same problems. There may be no such thing as isolating passengers on an air plane. That batch that came back to the military base for Quarantine were transported on a commercial flight with unaffected passengers. The word is that they were isolated. The truth is that everyone on the plane may have been exposed due to the ventilation system. And I doubt that the normal passengers had a clue who was on the plane.

[pfflier]

Some dumb questions:

Who would take a cruise to China?

Knowing how other maladies spread on cruise ships who is surprised about this ship?

Given an incubation period where the vector is symptomless, who is surprised the passenger infection rate is increasing?

Who doesn't suspect that the passengers are infecting each other by some violating quarantine protocols?

Who doesn't think the whole ship load of passengers and crew will become infected because no one understands the infection mechanism fully?

How come none of the passengers have died yet given the narrative in the media about the lethality of the corona virus?

[gandalftb]

I wonder what summer cruise bookings look like.

[DoughtyOne]

Coronavirus Spreadsheet Based on JHU data

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[hondact200]

Sounds like a mess being created. More cases will be identified. Meals delivered. Medications delivered. Water and whatever else. Must be getting boring for everyone being locked up in a cabin.

[hondact200]

Sounds like a mess being created. More cases will be identified. Meals delivered. Medications delivered. Water and whatever else. Must be getting boring for everyone being locked up in a cabin.

[colorado tanker]

I’m not a doctor by any means, but isn’t the close quarters of a cruise ship a dumb place to conduct a quarantine?

[Jim Noble]

This is a very important experiment of nature.

I don’t know, if I were in charge on scene, what the right thing to do is.

If it was 1399 we would tow it out beyond the 200 mile limit and sink it.

[sauropod]

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[DoughtyOne]

Just addressing the numbers outside China: (at this moment)

Global infection numbers: 896

Infections on Diamond Princess (D.P.): 454

D. P. infections compared to total Outside China figure: 50.67%

Cases outside China, not including the D.P. figures: 442

Growth of Outside China Figures not including the D.P. numbers.

15th: 6.37%
16th: 6.73%
17th: 3.27% (still accruing)

Growth including D.P. numbers:

15th: 27.06%
16th: 03.57%
17th: 14.43% still accruing)

Five deaths have occurred outside of Mainland China.

Three of fifteen cases in the U. S. have been declared recovered,
and there have been no deaths.

[null and void]

Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

If a quarantine saves just one child's life, it's worth it.

[momincombatboots]

Always lots of false pos and false negs due to interfering substances and specificity errors on gen 1 tests.

[ZOOKER]

I'm still thinking of a beach scenario.

There are still uninhabited islands out there. Admittedly, the reason they're uninhabited is because they won't sustain life - no food, no water, no shelter - but these can be supplied by airdrops until the virus burns itself out. Tents, fresh water, canned food - it'd be no vacation but better than sitting in a cabin listening to your neighbor cough his lungs out.

I'd much rather take my chances on the beach...