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Insurance Companies are to Blame for Surprise Medical Bills
Townhall.com ^ | February 15, 2020 | Andrew Langer

Posted on 02/15/2020 5:37:30 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 02/15/2020 5:37:30 AM PST by Kaslin
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I’m not sure anyone has a love affair with their health insurance carrier. It’s a highly overpriced and underwhelming product.


2 posted on 02/15/2020 5:43:05 AM PST by LumberJack53213
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I may be alone in this, but I have always been more than satisfied with my Private Insurance in the past...before BO...so I cannot relate to those who are so dissatisfied.

I really hope there is a thundering resurgence of NON=government interference and private health insurance this year.

President Trump promised.

Promises made, hopefully kept this time.


3 posted on 02/15/2020 5:48:37 AM PST by Maris Crane
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My husband and I are on Tricare which is through the military. We are also on Medicare as we are both senior citizens


4 posted on 02/15/2020 5:55:40 AM PST by Kaslin
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So you were happy with your insurance before Obama. Have you not had insurance since?


5 posted on 02/15/2020 5:55:41 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point finger at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to makne ends meet)
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I have no complaints about my medicare supplement G carrier.
Over the past year I have incurred over $100K in medical bills (bladder cancer). To date my out of pocket expence has been $4.30
6 posted on 02/15/2020 5:57:22 AM PST by dearolddad
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To: dp0622; Maris Crane

I have a feeling you misunderstood the poster.


7 posted on 02/15/2020 5:58:30 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: dearolddad

Medicare , Medicaid etc reimburse virtually nothing to providers. What I’m charged as a private pay is beyond reasonable . It’s like you go to the store and pay .25 for bread and I’m paying $5 a loaf. It’s unfair and can’t last for long.


8 posted on 02/15/2020 6:00:25 AM PST by LumberJack53213
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I like the idea of contracting with a chain clinic (like Kelsey-Seybold in Houston) for healthcare. Pay a monthly fee and get a reduced schedule of prices for service, or pay full price without a contract. Go to any of the clinics you want. Select a Dr. or see anyone...


9 posted on 02/15/2020 6:00:44 AM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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“New York State surprise medical bill law of 2014. “

Only state with this law.
When you go to a hospital or emergency room and are filling out the admission forms, you state that “you will not accept out-of-network services”. If some doctor who pokes his head in to say hi bills you, then the hospital that allowed it to happen gets stuck paying the bill.


10 posted on 02/15/2020 6:01:15 AM PST by BuffaloJack ("Security does not exist in nature. Everything has risk." Henry Savage)
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To: dp0622

Still happy.

I was lucky enough to avoid BO’s interference.


11 posted on 02/15/2020 6:04:35 AM PST by Maris Crane
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To: LumberJack53213

Medicare and Medicaid are reimbursed differently. Some practices I know don’t even submit certain bills for Medicaid. It costs more to prepare the bill than what they might get reimbursed for.


12 posted on 02/15/2020 6:09:43 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: Kaslin
This article is VERY misleading. I worked in the industry for over 30 years.
A doctor or hospital is considered in-network when they have agreed to accept your insurance. That means they agree to your insurance carrier's fee schedule. The contract between doctor and insurance carrier means the doctor cannot balance bill. Meaning: the doctor charges $200 for a routine visit. The carrier says that visit is only worth $100. The doctor is under contract to accept the 100 and CANNOT go after you for the balance, the other 100.

A non-contracted (meaning out of network) doctor can charge you whatever they want. Having insurance protects you from crazy high bills.

So, you go to a in-network hospital but you don't know that all the ER doctors there are not contracted with ANY insurance carrier. They can balance bill you. They REFUSE to accept any insurance carrier's fee schedule because they know they can charge you whatever they want, you are a captured audience, unknowing what is coming your way.

It's not the carrier's fault. It's the doctors that refuse to be in-network for ANY carrier. This happens a lot with anesthesiologist too. Blaming only the insurance companies is just wrong.

13 posted on 02/15/2020 6:16:52 AM PST by GrannyAnn
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AKA Cadillac Plan


14 posted on 02/15/2020 6:23:03 AM PST by Bell Bouy II
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For me and my spouse our insurance is 20K per year!! and it covers almost nothing. Seems like everything goes against the deductible. It is really very expensive catastrophic insurance.


15 posted on 02/15/2020 6:24:56 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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I would like to add: most people shop for in-network doctors when they can and most doctors are under contract with some form of insurance. No one would go to them if they didn't take insurance. This balance bill surprise happens in a hospital where you don't get to PICK your doctor. You are laying there bleeding to death and you are suppose to say, “Gee, doc, can you save my leg and by the way, do you accept Cigna insurance?”
16 posted on 02/15/2020 6:25:28 AM PST by GrannyAnn
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The tide seems to be changing.
I went to an in network doctor who did a biopsy and sent it out
They sent it to annout of network provider
I looked online and sawbthat I owe the full payment.
Figured I will wait for the bill to start the dance
Out of nowhere the insurance company resubmitted the bill and pays in full
The reason was surprise bill issue
Shocked, never happened before and i have been through this multiple times


17 posted on 02/15/2020 6:32:32 AM PST by italianquaker
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Health care in the USA eats up WAY to much of GDP.

Unfortunately, this is why I predict the socialists will win in the end. Sucks, but this is ridiculousness.

18 posted on 02/15/2020 6:33:50 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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I agree with you. The medical industry has been gouging the consumers for some time. Government controlled healthcare will be a nightmare and worse than what we have now, but there is nothing we can do to stop it.


19 posted on 02/15/2020 6:35:58 AM PST by LumberJack53213
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“According to Potter, “It’s because of a scheme quietly hatched by insurance companies like the ones I worked at, where they decide which hospitals and doctors to include in their networks. They make these choices based largely on what will maximize profits and minimize care.”

Networks are the way HMO’s save money for their customers. The providers are shopped by the HMO’s to take a lesser amount of payment than normal to be guarrenteed the business. When the customer signs up for the plan, with the company, he/she should read who are their network providers to determine, just like the care represented, whether they want to pay for the plan. HMO’s don’t twist the arms of customers to sign.

It’s like shopping at Walmart or Target to get the best deal and the quality of care is part of the decision just like either buying Sony or an off brand. You choose what they provide. If you don’t like it, don’t pay for it.

But this article is a twist of the procedure they use to make it look like it is the HMO that is creating the bills. Be responsible and read what you sign. Sometimes cost is not the only thing when you question the quality of care you determined for you.

rwood


20 posted on 02/15/2020 6:41:44 AM PST by Redwood71
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